Feb. 5, 2026

Choose Yourself: Identity, Power & Purpose

Choose Yourself: Identity, Power & Purpose

Join Dr. Lewis in a conversation with Urmi Hossain. Urmi is a self-published author, speaker, podcast host, and finance professional based in Canada. She works in the financial services industry while actively advocating for women’s empowerment, identity, and self-leadership. Her book, "Discovering Your Identity: A Rebirth from Interracial Struggle", explores her journey as a third-culture woman navigating belonging, culture, and self-worth. Email: urmi.hassain1923@gmail.com

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Success, Successful, Hoard, suzet.

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Rise successful Women.

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Did you know women represent just three percent of Fortune

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five hundred CEOs and less than fifteen percent of corporate

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executives at top companies worldwide? Have you wondered what the

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secrets are to getting into the top ranks, whether in

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the private or public sector. Do you want to figure

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out how to stop being held back in your career?

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Are pasted over for promotion? Then you're in the right place. Hi,

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I'm doctor Mattlanann lewis, President and CEO of the Executive

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Women's Success Institute. I have decades of experience in the military,

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the federal government, and corporate America. And my mission is

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to help women succeed and tap into their full potential.

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I want to reach a million plus women around the

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world to become the leaders they are meant to be.

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So if you want to move into a management or

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executive level position, or maybe you are a female veteran

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transitioning out of the military into business entrepreneurship, and then

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reach out to the Executive Women's Success Institute at three

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zero one six nine three three two eight four let

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us get you on the fast track to success. Well, Hello,

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and welcome to the Success for Women's Show, where you

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can view us on Talk for TV and listen to

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us on the Women for Women Network. I am doctor

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Madeline Ann Lewis your host, and my mission is to

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help women accelerate the path to success. Well, today's topic

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is choose Yourself, Identity, Power and Purpose and my guest

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is Miss You're me Jssin and I tell you what.

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I am honored to have her here because she is

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coming to us from Canada to day. But before I

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bring her on, let me just give you a little

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bit about her. Ermi is a self published author, speaker,

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podcast host, and finance professional based in Canada. She holds

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the Chartered Financial Analyst and Chartered Alternative Investment Analyst designations,

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and she works in financial in the financial services industry

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while using her platform to advocate for women's empowerment, identify identity,

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and self leadership. Her book, Discovering Your Identity, A Rebirth

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from Interracial Struggle explores her journey as a third culture

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woman navigating belonging, culture and self worth. Ermi also hosts

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Stories Beyond Borders, which is a podcast that amplifies diverse

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voices on identity, migration, language, and the meaning of home.

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It is such a pleasure to bring to the Successful

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Women's show, Ermi Hassan Hi Hi, it is such a

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pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you. I

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know your schedule is probably really busy. Our goal to

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just be glad to hear some of your journey and

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also talk about your book a little bit. So tell

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me something you you know from your bio. I can

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tell that you wear Mani hats, finance, professional, author, speaker,

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podcast hosts. So how do you personally define success at

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this stage in your life?

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I define success with one word, which is alignment. It's

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something that took me and why to understand. I think

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as a society, we think the success it's about career, reputation,

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financial status, your perception that people have about you in

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the society. But it realized for me it's about doing

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the things that make me happy and doing the things

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that I am most I feel most fulfilled, and for me,

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it's really about finding things that are online with my

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goals and values.

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Now, your book discovering your identity, Now I can tell

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that it's deeply personal. What moment or realization inspired you

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to finally tell your story.

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It was basically a couple of years ago when I

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was invited to different podcasts and every single time they

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would everyone was so fascinated about my story of being

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at our culture key, and I saw this as an

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opportunity to basically write my book. I didn't think it

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was going to come at that moment in my life.

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I didn't think it was going to come that soon.

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I knew that I was going to write a book eventually,

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but it came literally like four years ago, and so

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I saw this as an opportunity to make those conversations

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into a more concrete thing by writing my book, and

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I so published it.

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Mm hmm wow.

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And you know what, like I said, it seems like

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it's very personal to you because as a third world

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or as a third culture woman, you've navigated, i know,

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questions of belonging and self work. When did you begin

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to see your identity not as a struggle but more

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is strength.

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I think I had to do a couple of internal

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work and a lot of reflection, and a lot of

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understanding of myself and my identity and how I wanted

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to be portrayed in the world and what kind of

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cultures I wanted to represent. And so after having a

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lot of conversations, open dialogues, finding community of people similar

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to me, I finally came to the realization with me

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exposure to multiple cultures, it's it's an asset. It is

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more like a strength, something that I can use as

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my storytelling. And so me having exposure to, you know,

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two cultures to begin with the Bengali Titanian one, it's

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it's an asset. It's quite powerful, powerful, and it means

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you know that I can speak to languages. It means

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that I have exposure to two cultures. It means that

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I have exposure to to different transitions to different cuisines,

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and so that it was in that moment that I

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saw this more like a like an asset and not

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a weakness.

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Wow.

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Now know we all know that many women they feel

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pressure to kind of shrink back or maybe conformed to

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fit into professional or cultural spaces. How did you learn

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to choose yourself instead?

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I agree with what you just said. I feel like

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we just shrink ourselves more often than not to fit

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an ideology of what's considered to be the perfect daughter,

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the perfect women, for women working for a company. But

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for me, really, I came to a realization that I

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didn't want to like follow that, and I put myself

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first by basically putting boundaries and protecting my energy, protecting my.

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Aura.

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And it was at that moment that I decided that,

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you know it, it's okay to think differently. It's okay

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to uh to follow the unconventional, It's okay to put

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yourself first. It's okay to follow your own path because

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at the end of the day, you you cannot always

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make everyone happy, and so it's more important that you

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make yourself happy before making you know happy someone else.

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Absolutely, and that is definitely key and what you said

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about you know, like I said, shrinking back, that's that's

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something women tend to do a lot. And so I think,

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you know, reading your book is would be a perfect

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example to help them to move past and beyond that

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type of uh you know, behavior conforming too and just

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realize that, hey, you have to do what's best for you.

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That's right.

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Mm hmm.

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So what does self leadership mean to you and why

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is it especially important for women today?

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Do you think.

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So? For me?

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When I think about leadership, I truly think that it's

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all about impact, influence, and it's about sustainability. I think

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that women are typically leading in a way where they're

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creating impact and inspiring other women to do the same.

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It's no longer about titles. I think I used to

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have that notion that leadership is all about, you know,

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climbing the corporate ladder and being the CEO of a company,

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being the VP, the SVP of a company. And honestly,

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that's how I used to think the success was going

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to be that if I can become a manager of

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a company, it means all of the successful women. But

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I realized that I was developing those leadership skills even

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by being in a lower level positions and it wasn't

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you know about my title. Well, it was about the

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fact that I was part of a community, building a community,

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giving back to the community. It was about inspiring other people.

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And that's how I started to see leadership. It's about

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leading by example and being an inspiration to other people

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and making sure that you are creating an impact. And

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when I think about big names, most important leaders that

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for me were true, true leaders, that's what they did.

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You know, Like if I think about Gandhi, who is

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someone dra I very much admire. I think he was

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a true leader, very charismatic, he was giving back to

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the community, he was helping people. And so for me,

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that's what it means when it comes to when it

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comes to leadership.

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Absolutely and you're absolutely correct when you say, you know,

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a lot of people look at leadership as having a

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certain title and that gives them that, you know, I'm

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the leader, But it's really not about titles. It's about

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you and how you handle yourself, the way that you

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like you said, impact you make, and how you're you know,

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the people that are looking at you, just what exactly

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are they thinking of you as the person they want

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to follow you know so, and and and all those things.

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That plays a big part in in in leadership. And again,

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like I said, a lot of people don't realize that

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it's not about the title.

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That's it.

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That's it. For women.

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Who feel caught between cultures, expectations, are are certain roles.

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What do you think is the first step toward reclaiming

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their own authentic identity.

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I think it's about finding good allies, finding like partners

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or trusted people. I call them partner meaning that I

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always say, it's like any kind of like network that

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you do. It's about partnership. And I think that finding allies,

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finding mentors, finding finding people that advocate for yourself are

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the first step to reclaim yourself because I think sometimes

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we're the we are our worst critiques. We don't believe

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in ourselves, we don't we don't trust ourselves. And I

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think sometimes if you have the right kind of people

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around you who support your ideas and who encourage you,

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they will help you to find that power that it's

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sitting there but it's waiting.

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To be used.

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And so for me, I think it's about finding the

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right people around you mentors, allies, partners, people that advocate

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for you. And I think it's also important to don't

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just rely on your group of people. I think it's

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okay to go out and find other kinds of people

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that are like similar to you in terms of like

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values and who has your same interests. So, for instance,

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like there are so many like local events that happen

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in every single city that you have, conferences, you have

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social events, networking events, you know, especially now with international

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rooms and you have you have so many just go

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ahead and participate to some of these events and network

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with like mine, like like like people. So that would

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be my advice for for anyone who's like reclaiming, who's

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looking to reclaim themselves.

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You know, I totally agree with that, because if you

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stay in that same little box, then you know, where's

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the stretch, Where's.

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How are you going to?

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You know know what how you should you know look

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at In other words, have different perspectives too, because when

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you meet different people from different places, like for example,

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here I am, I'm here in Maryland and you're in Canada,

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so we're kind of reached the cross here to network,

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and that's pretty much what it's all about. And you

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have to and I think That's why I like to

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bring guests on from different areas of you know, around

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the country, different things like that, because.

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It's always a different perspective.

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You can always see, uh, what how they look at things,

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even with leadership, even with success. You know, everybody have

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their own definition of those things, how leadership should be,

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how success You know how to define success. But if

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you stay in the same little box, then you're gonna

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keep that same opinion. You won't have a you know,

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you won't have that different perspective.

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That's it.

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I agree, and it's and I think that's how you

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that's that's how you get like different ideas and different

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interests when you get outside of that comfort zone and

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you're willing to speak with someone that you would never

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have spoken before.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Now, representation is a major theme in your work and

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of that, So what do you believe telling our stories,

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especially as women of color or immigrant women?

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Why is that so powerful?

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So for me, when I think about representation, it's about possibilities.

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And I also think representation as leading by example and

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being determined. So what I mean by that? And for me, representation,

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like I said, it's very very important.

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But for me.

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Really, what it means is that I'm showing up for myself,

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but I'm showing up for other people. If I do

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not show up at all, I'm not making any kind

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of changes. And I always make this example of what

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happened to me. A couple of years ago, I went

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to an interview and before going to this interview, I

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looked into the management team and I was like trying

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to see if there was diversity, if there was a representation,

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and of course there's none of that. And so I

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pointed this out during the interview, and I asked the interviewer,

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like what do you do in terms of that, Like

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why don't you have women in your team? Why don't

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you have women of color in your team? And he

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was quite honest with me, the interviewer, Like he was

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really upfront about it, and he was like, you know,

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it's not about us not wanting to have representation, it's

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just that women do not apply. And let me tell

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you this. I was a little bit turned off at

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that moment, and I also didn't want to go to

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that interview because I was like, there's no representation. What

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am I going to do there? But I told myself

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that not you know what, I'm still going to go

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to this interview. If I been today got the job,

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my face will be on the website. And that's how

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I'm going to make that change going forward. Anyway, I

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did not the interview went well, just to like say,

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very briefly went well, but I decided not to go

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with that because it was not aligned with me. But

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for me, that's what it means representation, like making sure

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that you are changing the story going forward by showing

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up in places where representations is very much needed.

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Exactly because sometimes it just takes one to open that

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door for the others to follow, you know, to be

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able to go through the door. And as women, as

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we've talked about the shrinking back, a lot of times,

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we don't think we're qualified sometimes to go into those

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places like you went. You know, you did the interview,

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but when you ask that question that could have deterred

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you from even doing an interview.

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Yeah, so that was.

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Good, you know that you you you definitely you went

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on through it. Now your book, when you talk about

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discovering your identity and different things like that, what made

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you decide to write your story? What made you decide

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to just put it in print.

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You know what, I like.

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I read another book prior to writing my book, and

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when I was reading that book, I just felt the

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person was telling my story like it was so relatable,

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and I thought maybe maybe even my story could be

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relatable to someone. So that's why I wanted to write it.

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And I was going to different shows, to different many podcasts,

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podcast shows where they were asking my story of being

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a tour culture kid, and they were all very interested

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in knowing my experience growing up in Italy, and so

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I was like, you know what, let me just let

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me just write it, you know, really, just write it

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and see where this could go. I just didn't think

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it was going to happen that that soon. And for me,

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it was like journaling. It was digital journaling because I

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was just typing it and I was talking about my childhood,

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my teenage whose who was quite It was quite nice

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as a process because I was relieving those moments as

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if they happened yesterday, even like it's been twenty years,

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and so it was it was quite a nice process.

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And it's easy when you are talking about yourself, so

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it was quite effortless. I would just sit down every

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day and write it. And then I saw the actual

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concrete creation. I was like, oh my gosh, I did it.

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You know, it's I can go and tell people.

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Now now based on all of that, have you, you know,

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ever struggled with, say, imposter syndrome, particularly being in the

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inn that you're in, And if you did, how did

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you work through it? Because again, like we talk about

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a lot of women, sometimes they don't feel qualified to

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be in those areas, in those spaces. So was that

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something you ever struggled with?

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Okay, you know what, I was never familiar with this

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word until I started to go to webinars and workshop

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and they would like talk about imposter syndrome, and I

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was like, what is that?

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What is that?

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But you know what, I think we're all a victim

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of it. We just don't realize it. We just don't

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realize it. And I think me too, like I always

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tell myself, you know, I can do this, but then

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I start second guessing myself. And that's when I realized that, Okay,

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this is me, Like, you know, it's my imposter syndrome.

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And I think every single person suffers from it, and

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women especially, and we're always always like second guessing ourselves

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and so me one thing that I did because I

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am guilty of it, I try to work on it.

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I try to work on it by reframing some of

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the sentences, by writing like positive affirmations that I can

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do it, by rewirying my brain to think otherwise. So

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I use this little trick to make it like work.

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And then the other thing that I am starting to

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do is also like document a little bit of the

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things that I accomplish, because sometimes I'm thinking, I don't

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think I'm good enough for something, But then I'm like, no,

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but I did all of those things and.

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All of that exactly.

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So that's a good point, you know, because I started

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doing the same thing a little while ago, because just

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like you, you know, even though you do things, but

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until sometimes until you put it down, you think, oh, wow,

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I did do that. You know I can't do that,

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And because we do second guess ourselves as women, and

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it's always well, what if I'm not good enough?

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Would if I fail?

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What if? What if?

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It's always you know, in the back of your.

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Head, what if? Or or you know, so you I

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totally agree with you.

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I do that.

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I started doing the same thing, writing those accomplishments down

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and believe it or not, at the end of the year.

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I a few years, a couple of years ago, I

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started making a video and I do the video at

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the end of the year to put out there all

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the things that I accomplished, my company account accomplished during

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the year. And I mean, it's always to me so amazing.

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It's like, dang, I didn't know all you know, did

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all that during the year. But that is such a

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good thing to do, believe it or not, because again,

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when you when that imposter syndrome hit, you just pull

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out your notes, pull out your you know whatever wherever

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you're keeping that information, and just look at the fact

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that yes, you are qualified, Yes you can do it.

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You've done it, and this time you'll do it even better.

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So that truly does work. It really does.

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And you know what I recently they I was like,

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I was completely a form because I was supplying for

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something and they were asking me, do you have any

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experience in hosting events? And in my manner, I was like, yeah,

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I do, but I don't know how many I have.

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But then they asked me to list them and I

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started to writing them down. I was like, oh, damn, no,

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I do have a lot.

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Why am I thinking like I did not have any exactly?

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And you know, that's one of the things when I

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did my teedics talk and I said in there and

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this is because it was from the Harvard Business Review,

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and it literally said that about men, how they will

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apply for position when they feel they may be only

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sixty percent qualify for it. But a woman will look

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at the same position and feel she has to be

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one hundred percent qualified before she will even apply for it,

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which is such you know, a big expect cause see

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they get in the position and they think, I'll just

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learn as I go. But we feel like we have

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to walk into it knowing everything. And that's not true.

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That's right, And I think it's it's the way we

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have been conditioned to, you know, to be perfect, always perfect,

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and because of that, I think we just walk away

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when we don't meet all the requirements, all the requirements.

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Sometimes we talk ourselves out of something that could very

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well be you know, what we're good at, you know,

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and have them good at, and just don't we just

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don't recognize it.

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Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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We're your podcast Stories Beyond Borders. It explores identity migration,

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and the meaning of home.

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Correct.

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What has surprised you the most from some of the

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stories that you've heard.

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Everything, everything, Because.

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Some of the stories that I that I listened to

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were quite surprising and at the same time unrealistic, because

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before hearing these stories, I was like, no, this kind

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of happen nowadays. But I did, like I used to

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like think that some some some of the reasons why

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people live their countries, which you just see it on

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like on on on movies, like in the movies. There

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was this particular guest who told me that she had

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to leave her home country because of like war reasons

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back in the days. And she was telling me about

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this episode where like she just took her teddy Bear

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and then like she just like left the country with

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her with her mother. And I think that that was

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just happening in the movies, Like I was like, it's

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happened in the movies, but the fact that she told

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me that it really happened to her, and I was like, Wow,

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that's that's like, that's that's really like and I like not,

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you cannot imagine something like that. So for me, that

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was quite an eye opener. And then there was another

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another guest who also talked about her being by racial

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and how you know, like she was half white and

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half black, and how you know she felt privileged because

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she looked white, but sometimes you know, she wished, she

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wished that she looked black to be closer to that

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the other part of her identity. And a lot of

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these stories are really relatable too, Like I invited people

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who are very similar to me, Like they grew up

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in one country, but the parents come from another country,

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and even though the countries could be different, go through

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the same struggles, you know, trying to fit in, trying

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to look alike, you know, trying to be like that,

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you know, those people that are living in the same

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countries as us. So it's been a nice experience so far.

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I enjoy, you know, interviewing people, enjoy hearing their immigration stories.

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Now, have any of the conversations that you've had on

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your podcast, has any of those stories stayed with you

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or shifted your own perspective?

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Definitely. One thing that I am much more aware is

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that every single human being has a story to share.

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And one thing that I'm also much much more aware

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is our names we have. You know, each one of

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us has a different name, and sometimes people ask me

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how to pronounce my name.

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Like a little bit like you said at.

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The beginning, I'm a bit more mindful too about like

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pronouncing people's names, because I feel like when you are

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mispronouncing someone's name, you are in a way not disrespecting.

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But I'm trying to find a better word for this,

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but you're like, you're not showing respect towards the person's story,

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and you know.

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And then again, some people, I think they just they

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may not feel comfortable asking you how to pronounce it.

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But I for me, I always do it.

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If it's the name that I'm not that familiar with,

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I do it because I'm coming on air and we're

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putting it out there, so I want to make sure

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I'm putting it out there correctly. Now, I think there

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was only one guest that I had that her name.

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It was just a tongue twister, you know, it was.

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It was just hard for me to pronounce it correctly.

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But I still try to make that effort to do

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that because I knew just looking at the name. I

482
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couldn't just come on air and automatically think I knew.

483
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What was yeah, yeah, for sure.

484
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And I'm not like I know this.

485
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.160
Sometimes it's it could be like a you know, an

486
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honest mistake. We don't do it on purpose, but I

487
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.240
realized that it's important to ask people's name before because

488
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:32.640
names do carry a meaning, they do carry a history story,

489
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.559
you know, they do carry a lot, and sometimes behind

490
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.319
the name there is really a lot. And so for me,

491
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.279
it's something that I'm a bit more mindful now. And

492
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.839
I'm very curious now when it comes to two names

493
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.400
that I'm not used to. I know there is there's

494
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.480
so much that this person can share about themselves.

495
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.599
Well, it's it's amazing that you say that, because my

496
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.519
name I always felt that it wasn't that uncommon, But

497
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:03.160
you wouldn't believe how many people pronounced mine, well one,

498
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.799
because they assume that it's supposed to be pronounced a

499
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.839
certain way when they look at it, and you know,

500
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.960
it's not. It can be pronounced several different ways, but

501
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.519
they always assume the I guess their version of what

502
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.759
they want it to be. So, you know, I get

503
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.519
that too. I just correct them and then let it

504
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.920
go and you know, and hope that they remember, Okay,

505
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.119
that's the way it's supposed to be pronounced. But yeah,

506
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.319
I totally understand, and I definitely think that if you

507
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.440
see someone's name and you know you can't pronounce it,

508
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.880
you really should ask, you know, out of respect that

509
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:45.960
you like you said it, because you want to make

510
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sure that you're getting it right.

511
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So I'm glad. I hope that I will.

512
00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:00.799
So tell me, looking back, what would you tell your

513
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.000
younger self who was still searching for where she belonged?

514
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:20.720
I think I will definitely tell her, like, give yourself

515
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.519
permission to be whoever you want.

516
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.279
Yeah, wow, Okay, now your book again. I keep going

517
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.079
back to your book because I just think it's so fascinating.

518
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:34.920
What do you.

519
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:40.440
Hope women will take away after reading your book or

520
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:41.759
listening to your work?

521
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.599
What do you hope they'll take away from that?

522
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:50.440
To accept themselves for who they are and embrace every

523
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:54.119
single aspect of their identity, and.

524
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.440
To basically.

525
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:04.079
Pursue in life which don't have to be necessarily what

526
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.880
society expects them to be, so to put themselves first,

527
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.319
to follow their dreams, to big, to dream big.

528
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.000
Yeah okay.

529
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:18.880
And just to make sure the listening audience know the

530
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.319
title of the book, let me give the title again.

531
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.920
It is I want to make sure I got it right.

532
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:32.680
It's this Her book is discovering your Identity, a rebirth

533
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.920
from interracial struggle. Is that the entire I gave it

534
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.200
the entitle entire time. Okay, that's what it is, a rebirth,

535
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:50.039
discovering your identity, a rebirth from interracial struggle. So I

536
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.279
just wanted to make every sure that everybody know since

537
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.039
we keep kind of alluding to the book that remember

538
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:57.799
with the title, and I'm going to type it in

539
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.200
the chat so that it can go across screen and

540
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.720
be on there too. So finally, what's next for you?

541
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.119
And how do you hope to continue empowering women to

542
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.599
live boldly and unapologetic.

543
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.599
So definitely, I do have a lot of things in mind,

544
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.000
and there are a lot of things that are in

545
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.280
the in the progress. So I definitely want to continue

546
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.960
volunteering and being part of the organization Women and Leadership

547
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.239
as the culture for the Manchelle chapter and create events

548
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.039
and community over there for the women in Montreal. I

549
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.000
do want to continue mentoring. I am a big advocate

550
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.360
when it comes to mentoring and sharing your wisdom with

551
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.719
the other women, and I think that happens really through

552
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:48.039
conversations from one woman to another woman. And the other

553
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.119
thing that I want to do and you like did it,

554
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.599
which is to deliver ethitics. Eventually it's my it's my

555
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.519
big dream is to be on the stage and speak.

556
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.960
So I've been, uh, I've been working hard for Dowin,

557
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:06.039
but it's been quite challenging, I have to say challenging

558
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:06.599
so far.

559
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.679
Hey, that look okay, now let's not go back into that, uh,

560
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:12.280
that syndrome again.

561
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.639
You'll be able to do it. It can be done,

562
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.079
so we know it can be done.

563
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.280
So that's what we're going to keep thinking that you

564
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:21.880
will get that done.

565
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.199
So tell me if you have one piece of advice.

566
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.679
To leave with our viewers and our listeners, what would

567
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.760
that advice be?

568
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:40.119
One piece of advice We need to invest your time

569
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:46.880
in getting knowledge, to continue studying and to.

570
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.559
Have a life as a lifelong learner.

571
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.360
I've heard that.

572
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.280
And what if if our viewers and listeners wanted to

573
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.320
get a copy of your book, where can they get it?

574
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.599
And also if they wanted to reach out to you,

575
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.760
how can they do so?

576
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.039
Yes, So my book is called Discovering Your Identity Reverse

577
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:14.320
from Inteition Struggle. It's available on Amazon and if people

578
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.800
want to connect with me, I have a LinkedIn profile

579
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.079
called Omeho Sign. I have a YouTube channel called Sign

580
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.199
and my podcast is available on Apple and Spotify, and

581
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.320
it's called Stories Beyond Orders.

582
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:32.119
Absolutely, and I also made sure to put your email address.

583
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.960
It's also running across it has run across the screen.

584
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.480
So I just want to thank you so much for

585
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:43.440
coming on the show and sharing your journey with us.

586
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.800
It has definitely been powerful.

587
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.800
I was I was just excited when you reached out

588
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:54.800
and wanted to be on the show, and after seeing

589
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.400
your book and knowing your journey, it was it's just

590
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.440
great to have you here. Thank you so much for

591
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:06.039
joining us. Thank you alrighty, you take care and hopefully

592
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.119
we'll see you again when you do your ten X talk.

593
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.639
We'll bring you back to tell us about thanks. All

594
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.679
righty okay, So thanks again to my guests, Miss Ermie Hassan,

595
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.320
and now I'm just going to give you all a

596
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.519
little bit of what's going to be going on. I

597
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:31.920
am honored, of course, to share a continually share that

598
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.880
I'm officially one of the founding women on the empower

599
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:41.719
Her Wall by she Rises Studios in partnership with Phoenix TV,

600
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:47.159
a global movement of showcasing two hundred trail blazing women

601
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:55.280
on one powerful digital wall inside Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada.

602
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.840
So on February twenty second, twenty twenty six, the empower

603
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.280
Her Wall will be unveiled, and when the lights rise

604
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:10.519
and the cameras roll, the world will witness something extraordinary.

605
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.320
It will see two hundred women standing together, not in competition,

606
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:22.199
not in division, but in unity, equality and shared prosperity.

607
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.239
I'm also really really excited about the Successful Women Radio

608
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.480
and TV show. As you know, we were on the

609
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.960
feed Spots list of the top one hundred best career,

610
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:41.039
mindset and working women podcasts, and that now we have

611
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.679
gone from number sixteen on the list. Guess what to

612
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.880
number eleven. Yay. I wish I had some streamers to

613
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.199
put out there. I'm telling you that's not bad if

614
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.880
I say so myself. So you know, this list highlights

615
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podcasts that empower women to build success successful careers, navigate

616
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.239
workplace challenges, and find true fulfillment in work and life.

617
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.840
And I'm honored to be among those that are on

618
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.039
that list. And as an example is our guest that

619
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.320
was on here today telling us about her journey of

620
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.840
how she did the things that she did. So those

621
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.039
are the types of things that we want to continue

622
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.199
to bring on the show and share with you all.

623
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.199
Don't forget to make sure to check out my book,

624
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.079
Show Up to Rise Up Explore the Transformative Power of

625
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:40.320
a Positive Mindset, which achieved bestseller status on Amazon in

626
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the Women in Business category.

627
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:44.760
It's also available.

628
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.880
On Amazon and to get the book, you can put

629
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.400
my name in the search box and it will come

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00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:56.639
right up. Or you can email me directly at Madlin

631
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:02.719
at ex WSI dot com, or go on my I

632
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.760
should say, go on my website which is www dot

633
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:10.960
EXWSI dot com, click on the Success Bookstore and you'll

634
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.960
be able to also purchase the book from there. And

635
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.239
if you have not viewed my TEDx talk that I

636
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.719
did in Vancouver, Canada, make sure to do so. The

637
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.039
topic was show Up to Rise Up, and you can

638
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.119
watch it on YouTube. Just put my name in the

639
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search box, or you can send me an email at

640
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:39.280
info at EXWSI dot com and I will send you

641
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.440
the direct link so that you can make sure to

642
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.760
check it out. Because I'm always excited to see that

643
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.880
It's still going out there. People are still viewing it.

644
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.840
It's at two hundred and twenty six eight hundred and

645
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.000
fourteen views, and of course my goal is to reach

646
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.639
one million plus views. So I do want to thank

647
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:06.119
you all in advance for your support and continuing to share,

648
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:12.239
to like and commenting on the videos. So make sure

649
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:16.000
you keep continuing to push it out there. I'm also

650
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:21.519
a contributing writer to the on It magazine where I

651
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:26.199
share nuggets and resources every month. Ow It magazine is

652
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:31.159
a resource for personal and professional and business development, so

653
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.000
make sure you get your free subscription and to do so,

654
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:43.519
you can also contact me Madlin at EXWSI dot com

655
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.719
for the details on getting your free description to own

656
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.960
It magazine. Again, I want to I would like to

657
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.119
thank my guests Ms. Irma Hassan, and my viewers and

658
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.400
my listeners for joining me today. This is a successful

659
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.760
women's show. I am your host, Doctor Madelin Ann Lewis,

660
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.000
and if you would like to reach out to me,

661
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.960
you can email me at info at EXWSI dot com

662
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.719
or go to my website www dot exwsi dot com

663
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.079
and while you're there, you can download my free three

664
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.280
part video series on three things every woman should do

665
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:34.920
to position herself for executive leadership. I would also like

666
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.440
you to sign up for my online course which is

667
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.199
Cracked the Career Code how to Lead with Confidence, Charisma

668
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and Credibility. To sign up for the course, you can

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go to www dot crackthcreercode dot com. You can also

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00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.679
reach out to me on all the social media platforms.

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00:42:56.239 --> 00:43:01.320
Don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel. Don't forget

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to subscribe to all the channels the YouTube channel of

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make sure that you like this episode. Make sure you

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00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:22.639
share this episode with your friends, colleagues and all others. Again,

676
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.760
this is the Success for Women's show. We are here

677
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:30.599
every week. I am your host, doctor Madeleine Anne lewis

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00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.480
helping women to accelerate the path to success. Thank you

679
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.400
again for joining me. I love you all to life

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00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.880
and as always, be well and stay safe out there.

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This is success success.

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