Grow People Grow Profit

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.480
The topics and opinions expressed on the
following show are solely those of the hosts

2
00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:07.280
and their guests, and not those
of W FOURWN Radio It's employees or affiliates.

3
00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.119
We make no recommendations or endorsements for
radio show programs, services, or

4
00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:15.279
products mentioned on air or on our
web. No liability, explicit or implied

5
00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:19.199
shall be extended to W four w
N Radio It's employees or affiliates. Any

6
00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:22.480
questions or comments should be directed to
those show hosts. Thank you for choosing

7
00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:58.159
w FOWN Radio. I got the
time And did you know women represent just

8
00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.480
three percent of Fortune five hundred CEOs
and less than fifteen percent of corporate executives

9
00:01:03.519 --> 00:01:10.280
at top companies worldwide. Have you
wondered what the secrets are to getting into

10
00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:15.159
the top ranks, whether in the
private or public sector. Do you want

11
00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:19.840
to figure out how to stop being
held back in your career? Are passed

12
00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.400
over for promotion, then you're in
the right place. Hi. I'm doctor

13
00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.400
Madelonian Lewis, President and CEO of
the Executive Women's Success Institute. I have

14
00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.439
decades of experience in the military,
the federal government, and corporate America,

15
00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:40.799
and my mission is to help women
succeed and tap into their full potential.

16
00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:46.040
I want to reach a million plus
women around the world to become the leaders

17
00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.239
they are meant to be. So
if you want to move into a management

18
00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:55.680
or executive level position, or maybe
you're a female veteran transitioning out of the

19
00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:01.120
military into business entrepreneurship, then reach
out to the Executive Women's Success Institute at

20
00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:08.240
three zero one six nine three three
two eight four let us get you on

21
00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:24.159
the fast track to success. Well. Hello, and welcome to the Success

22
00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:30.199
for Women's Show, where you can
view us on Talk for TV and listen

23
00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:37.000
to us on the Women for Women
Network. I am doctor Madeline and lewis

24
00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:43.680
your host, and my mission is
to help women accelerate the path to success.

25
00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:49.159
Well today, I am very excited. My guest is coming to us

26
00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:53.759
all the way from South Africa and
the topic today is going to be grow

27
00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:01.360
People, Grow Profit and my guest
is Lisa. Let me just give you

28
00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:08.360
a little bit of background about Lisa. Lisa Cracy is the CEO of Ombulei

29
00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:17.400
Group. Lisa is a seasoned learning
and development specialists with twenty years of expertise

30
00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:28.840
in effective people management. Her professional
journey spans multiple continents including Europe, Africa,

31
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:37.039
the United Arab Emirus and Kuwait.
Lisa provides leaderships leadership to a team

32
00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:45.319
of fifty organizational development and learning and
development specialists. She has in in depth

33
00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:53.800
understanding of the principles of talent management, organizational development and change management. Her

34
00:03:53.840 --> 00:04:00.520
coaching expertise is focused on senior level
leaders in international organization, where she offers

35
00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:06.039
them guidance and support. I'd like
to welcome to the Successful Women's Show,

36
00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:15.560
miss Lisa Crazy. Thank you very
much. Sure that introduction, Doctor maddenine

37
00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.639
it is so it's such a pleasure
to have you on the show today.

38
00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:27.040
And I normally start by reading the
standard bio on my guests, but I

39
00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.439
always like to ask the guests to
just tell us what you want us to

40
00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:41.800
know about Lisa Crazy. So interesting. I am first and foremost businesswomen and

41
00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:47.079
started my business about twenty years ago, and I have a passion for people

42
00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:55.639
and creating a environment, a working
environment where people can thrive. So that

43
00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.959
is the whole focus and that is
my mission. So yes, that's who

44
00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:08.040
I am. So tell me about
your journey, that what brought you into

45
00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:13.120
this industry. As I was reading
your bio. It talked about you being

46
00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.160
a learning and development specialist. You
have over twenty years in that industry.

47
00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:25.560
What brought you to that particular area. So, I've always had a passion

48
00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.839
for education, and I started my
career off as a teacher, but I

49
00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:35.000
always wanted to move from teaching into
adult education, and that is where I

50
00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:42.800
started. I've focused very much on
behavior science and the softer skills, which

51
00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:49.439
I think is as important as the
technical skills for successful employees. That drives

52
00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:55.920
the success of businesses. So that
is I've got into learning and development.

53
00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:00.720
Okay, now your business is twenty
years old. Our a little bit twenty

54
00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:08.199
years old next year. Correct.
Tell us about the Bully Group. Sure,

55
00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:15.319
we are South African based group that
focus on people and organizations. We

56
00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:20.439
focus on talent management and training and
development. In talent management, we focus

57
00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:29.120
very much on leadership development, supporting
with executive coaching and leadership coaching. We

58
00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:36.079
also look at the different levels within
organizations and we align interventions to assist in

59
00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:44.680
bringing everybody up to speed and performance. Then our training and development company is

60
00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:51.680
very strong. We've established it's an
accredited organization that has got three academies that

61
00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:59.680
serves different sectors in the business world. So we've got a Manufacturing and Production

62
00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:04.000
accu aademy that focuses on mining groups, because in South Africa that's quite a

63
00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:11.680
big sector, mining and manufacturing groups. Then we've got a retail academy that

64
00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:18.680
focuses very much on the different levels
of within an organization and training people on

65
00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:26.560
those different levels in different disciplines.
And then we've got a business and Leadership

66
00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:34.800
academy that really focuses on accredited leadership
programs and business administration programs and so forth.

67
00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:40.680
So that is the borclear group.
We are passionate about people and we

68
00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:46.680
believe that if you develop your people, that will drive your profit. So

69
00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.839
absolutely so, do you find that
you have more women that you train or

70
00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.800
that come to you or is it
a mixture of both women and men.

71
00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:03.959
You know, men are equal numbers
in equal numbers, So in South Africa

72
00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:09.680
were well equal in numbers, although
we are trying to and I think it's

73
00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:18.079
also a drive from organizations to create
opportunities for women, to give African women

74
00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.360
the opportunity to be trained up and
empowered. So there is a system employment

75
00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:33.559
equity that we implement in our country
that drives from a government perspective drives the

76
00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.120
certain targets that we have to train
certain women in certain leadership positions to uptrain

77
00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:46.279
and empower them. So definitely we
are seeing the changes there. Oh wow,

78
00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:52.120
that's fantastic. So what is your
life purpose and your what is your

79
00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.080
leaderships now? Since you've been you
know, in business, like I said,

80
00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.600
over twenty years, I know over
the years it's probably change, but

81
00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.480
tell us about that. Yeah,
it definitely changes. You know. I

82
00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:09.799
think humans, we as humans are
not statement. We have a care of

83
00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:15.799
the self that stays the same,
but we are ever changing. So my

84
00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:24.879
leadership style is very much transitional.
I like to bring inspire people to be

85
00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:33.559
self directed and have self leadership because
I do think that with the right guidance

86
00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:41.279
and support and mentoring, the potential
is in every person to really unfold and

87
00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:48.519
live it. Absolutely, you're absolutely
right about that. So how do you

88
00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:56.679
manage your work life balance? I
know it's it's it's probably a lie to

89
00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.559
have to train and develop, especially
when you're dealing with big corporations. And

90
00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:07.639
from what I gather, you've you've
done it around the world so to speak,

91
00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:13.639
you know, in different countries Europe
out not only Africa, but in

92
00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:20.480
the United Arab Emirates. So how
do you manage your work life balance?

93
00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:26.679
Sure, when I started the business, doctor Madeleine, you know I've my

94
00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.679
children was small. I've got two
grown up children now adult children, and

95
00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:37.480
it was difficult. It was more
complex than it is now. So I

96
00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:45.039
had to ensure that I had a
really good support system through family and friends

97
00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:50.639
that I was very pleased to be
surrounded with. Now things have changed.

98
00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.399
My children have flown the nest.
They all making their own lives and it's

99
00:10:54.519 --> 00:11:01.960
much better. So traveling to do
work in different countries have been so much

100
00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:07.440
easier. Life balance. I do
believe in a balanced life. I think

101
00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:16.240
as a leader, and I think
sometimes when women enter the corporate life or

102
00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.840
business ownership life, they have the
idea that you, you know, in

103
00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.960
order to be in competition with whoever
at that level, you need to really

104
00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.720
just work work, work, work, work, and show that you are

105
00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.840
totally committed to being kind of a
workaholic. I don't believe in that.

106
00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.240
I think that you as a leader
should set the example to work smart,

107
00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:50.639
to be healthy physically healthy and emotionally
healthy, and if that means you need

108
00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:56.840
to take time out you do that, you look after your physical health because

109
00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:05.120
you are You are nothing to nobody
if you are overworked and you are not

110
00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:11.200
healthy. So I fully believe in
a life balance. I don't believe in

111
00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:18.759
working overtime. Our office hours are
very much We also try and look after

112
00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:26.080
the wellness, the corporate wellness of
our employees. Our office hours are from

113
00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.279
eight to four so that you still
have time in the afternoon to stead with

114
00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.240
your family, and then on a
Friday we close the office at one block.

115
00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.120
We close it so that people can
have a Friday afternoon to relax,

116
00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.919
to enjoy it with their children,
or to just go to the beach or

117
00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:54.399
just be So I am propagating this
because we still get the work done.

118
00:12:54.600 --> 00:13:01.759
Our organization is still very competitive and
achieving the goals. I would imagine that

119
00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:07.440
helps uh that you know, doing
things like that helps the morale too,

120
00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.840
which would make them want to do
well at work. And even when they're

121
00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.279
there, they're probably much happier because
they know, like you said, on

122
00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.440
a Friday, they can leave early
and have time to spend with their families.

123
00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.799
So that definitely, I think would
have something to do with the morale

124
00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:31.480
too of the people that's working for
the organization. Wow, So I'm sorry

125
00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.960
most definitely. I think you know
what the purpose was when we started off.

126
00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.440
I said, we have to work
together. We've got to be the

127
00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.919
change agents. We speak, we
spend most of our waking hours in the

128
00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.919
workplace, and we've got to be
the change agents that say, let's make

129
00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:54.720
this not a toxic environment. Let's
make it a balanced of environment where people

130
00:13:54.759 --> 00:14:01.919
can thrive. Absolutely too bad.
A lot of other businesses don't do the

131
00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.039
same thing. They just want,
i mean, call people on holidays and

132
00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:11.039
expect them to work on holidays and
different things like that, and people get

133
00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:15.080
burned out, you know, they
get burnt out when they have to constantly

134
00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:20.559
be there around the clock twenty four
seven their own call or something like that.

135
00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.159
That tends to burn people out.
So I think that's a good,

136
00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.519
you know, thing that you all
have adopted in your organization. So,

137
00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:35.799
as a female, what were your
biggest challenges for you as a CEO in

138
00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:43.279
the business world? So I think
we've come along way, you know,

139
00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:54.559
but they were challenges. There's always
that systemic societal perspectives of a woman should

140
00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.639
not be sitting around the corporate table. And then again, it's not only

141
00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:05.000
the ma that has that perspective.
Sometimes we as women or our feel of

142
00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:13.000
women create that perspective. And I
think the challenge was to to change that

143
00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:20.679
perspective without being trying to be aggressive, but to be confident enough to sit

144
00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.799
around that table and put up your
hand. And to the challenge was that

145
00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:31.320
I had to work at times work
much harder to gain the respect of my

146
00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:41.440
fellow male counterparts. Wow. Now
we know, we all know that success

147
00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.080
means different things to different people,
But what do you feel is the secret

148
00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:54.039
to your success? I think the
secret to my success definitely is that I

149
00:15:54.080 --> 00:16:00.279
don't always think of myself as the
the most cleverest person in the room.

150
00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:11.279
I surround myself with people that have
got huge abilities and are extremely clever,

151
00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:18.440
and that assists me to be successful. So I think I choose widely and

152
00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:27.000
I trust them to work with me
to drive the success of the business.

153
00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:34.559
And then again, you know my
family. I think my success is also

154
00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:44.879
that I've always had a vision that
I've got to create wealth and wellness for

155
00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.840
my family, whether it's the work
family or my own family. So that's

156
00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:57.720
a big driver for me. Wow. So how do you you know we

157
00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:04.279
are like is a big organization,
big corporation would have you in, there's

158
00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:10.640
still the community out there. How
do you give back to the communities that

159
00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:15.240
you do business with. So in
South Africa, we have a very high

160
00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:22.160
unemployment rate amongst the youth and we
as a book they are in a fortunate

161
00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:32.279
position that we can be the bridge
between the corporate world and the unemployed rural

162
00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:41.880
youth in South Africa in the sense
that we would convince corporates to embark on

163
00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:48.559
a twelve month accredited program where they
would then afford unemployed youth that is recruited

164
00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:56.079
and gone through the recruitment process the
opportunity to come into the workplace. They

165
00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:02.720
pay for their studies and they afford
them twelve month kind of internship where they

166
00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:10.039
also gained workplace experience. So through
initiatives like that, I think our company

167
00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:18.559
as the bridge between corporate and unemployed
youth. We are bringing opportunity and giving

168
00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:26.000
dignity to the young people and hope
we give hope. That's through education.

169
00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:33.039
There is if you are willing to
self direct you yourself, then there is

170
00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:41.559
an opportunity for you to grow yourself
and start a career. Definitely now a

171
00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.680
lot of your again I was reading
in your buy or a lot of your

172
00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:52.920
coaching expertise, it says that you
focus it on senior level leaders in international

173
00:18:52.039 --> 00:19:00.440
organization. Why why is that?
Why do you feel that they're the you

174
00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.799
have more to offer that group as
far as because of your skills and your

175
00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.960
abilities? Is that why you tend
to focus on the senior levels and the

176
00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:19.680
organization. I think first and foremost
my knowledge and support live with the more

177
00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:26.720
senior teams. I try not to
be everything to everybody. I try to

178
00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:34.000
focus on certain areas. So and
when I say I focus on senior executives,

179
00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:40.359
it doesn't say that I won't go
you know that I can't goa to

180
00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.359
somebody on a lower level. I
just think that my expertise and my focus

181
00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:55.519
lies exactly there. And also that
is just also initiative to bring a change

182
00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.880
about in workplaces because it filters down
from the top. So if you want

183
00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:07.480
to influence, start with the top
leaders. So yeah, yeah, do

184
00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:12.839
you find that in dealing with those
at the top that it's hard sometime to

185
00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.640
change that mindset, you know,
to get them to kind of pivot a

186
00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:26.880
little bit, you know, to
maybe not be so strong on their big

187
00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.160
on their ideas, but look at
it as though, Okay, maybe I

188
00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:34.240
do have to bend a little in
order to make certain things work. Do

189
00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:40.680
you find that it's hard to get
them to change their mindset? It's going

190
00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:45.599
to be difficult to qull to talk
about a collective because we address them as

191
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:51.799
individuals, and every individual is different. What I have found as a collective

192
00:20:52.119 --> 00:21:00.680
is that the leaders are much more
perceptive and open to work with you because

193
00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:06.119
they do the work and we support, but to take a bit of guidance

194
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:12.599
and to also be open to change
and to implement change, because I think

195
00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:22.960
most of them that I've encountered are. And it also dependent on the different

196
00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:32.200
generations, because you'll get the older
generation that might be a bit stuck in

197
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:37.720
certain thought patterns or my way or
the highway, and you've got to work

198
00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.079
a little bit harder to gain their
trust and to bring the change. But

199
00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:48.400
in the end, it is really
about to land home. It is about

200
00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:56.319
the organization that they need and that
a level of five leader would want to

201
00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:02.319
work for the organization for the benefit
of that organization. And once that lands,

202
00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:07.240
they start opening up. So it
takes work, and it's it's a

203
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.720
different path for different individuals. I
got you. Yeah, So how do

204
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:18.079
you tend to persevere through the tough
times? I mean, for example,

205
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:25.559
how did you fare through the pandemic? I mean how did that affect your

206
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.720
your organization, you know, making
sure that it stayed on track because you

207
00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.440
know, I know here in the
United States, a lot of businesses went

208
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.920
out of They went out of business
because they couldn't pivot or you know,

209
00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:45.759
didn't have something else another way to
make profits once the pandemic hit. So

210
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:51.960
how have you been able or were
you able to persevere throing those tough times.

211
00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:59.240
Yes, I think the pandemic has
has had a severe effect worldwide on

212
00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:06.319
the businesses and organizations. From our
side, and I've seen this, we

213
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:14.240
were we were in a situation where
the lockdown came very suddenly in South Africa.

214
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.799
I think they announced it and within
a week we had to lockdown everything

215
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:26.240
and we are projects that we ran
across the country was in jeopardy because of

216
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:33.319
that. So the first thing that
we and it was very worrisome. I

217
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.440
would not take away the stress and
the strain around that. I think what

218
00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:45.559
saved us was that we were extremely
agile. I think organizations that was too

219
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:52.279
slow in their decision making in their
response to this were the ones that was

220
00:23:52.400 --> 00:24:02.039
hurt the most. We were extremely
agile, very flexible. We immediately engaged

221
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:07.279
on an online platform where we would
be able to take all the projects,

222
00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:14.519
training projects and things, and we
were day and night to get that live.

223
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.160
And yes, thanks to my team, we we got that life within

224
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:29.079
most probably two weeks, and we
were able to continue to put our clients

225
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.200
at ease that this can still happen. And funny enough, and I'm sure

226
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:40.599
you will know now that most of
our business is now done online. You

227
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:45.759
know, we really have face to
face meetings with clients now, most of

228
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:49.799
our meetings are online, so we
are in a virtual world. But it

229
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:55.480
was a lot of resilience. It
was a lot of hard work, but

230
00:24:55.599 --> 00:25:02.400
we were agile, flexible, and
I think that's our response was quick.

231
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:08.119
Yeah, definitely are you all still
doing are there still is there still a

232
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:14.759
lot of remote work going on?
Or have most of the people returned back

233
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:21.359
to the offices and you know and
conducting business as usual. So in our

234
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.119
and our officers, everybody has returned
back to the officers. It's just for

235
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:33.960
us. We found that for a
interactive team to really work well together.

236
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.920
That worked for us. I know
that some of our clients have got a

237
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:45.960
kind of a blended approach and they've
allowed some of the employees to work maybe

238
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:49.200
two days from home. We have
one or two employees that we allow,

239
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:56.480
which is more of the older aged
employees that we're more at risk. During

240
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.799
COVID. They have become so used
and they still the lever on everything that

241
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.799
they are allowed to work home.
But most of our employees have returned home

242
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.559
and I mean return to the office, and I think they preferred the human

243
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:17.039
touch, the human interaction. You
know, I still don't think that the

244
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:22.400
virtual world. It's a great world, and it's I love technology, but

245
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:26.960
it is it doesn't make up for
the loss of human interaction. Yeah,

246
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:33.119
absolutely absolutely So, if you had
to give us some tips for growing a

247
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:41.799
business, what would a few tips
be. That's a there's a lot of

248
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:49.599
tips. So I think the first
thing is that I would like to say

249
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:56.599
is that you've got to be very
very careful around your cash flow, and

250
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.160
you've got to you've got to plan
well, you've got to plan your resource

251
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:06.920
as well. And the day that
you start a business, I've seen this.

252
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:17.480
It is a rather be conservative around
the spending and conservative around the growth.

253
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.319
Work more towards sustainability rather than just
growing for the sake of growing,

254
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:30.720
trying to be the biggest and the
strongest. We believe in growing sustainable and

255
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:36.279
we are very conservative in the way
that we manage our finances in our business,

256
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.519
and I think that has been our
success for the twenty years. We

257
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:48.039
also would also because I've seen when
people start business is the first thing they

258
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.200
do is they have a bigger car. They want to show they are the

259
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.079
boss they are. I've got the
title, I've got to show it.

260
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.400
You know what is that thing?
I've got to be yet before it's even

261
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:07.880
really there. And that is the
first mistake. Be conservative, as Warren

262
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.880
Buffett said, you know, be
conservative around your finances. Be careful.

263
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.839
You need to be very it's got
to be planned well, manage your expenses,

264
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:26.519
and don't just drove for the sake
of growing it. Wives mmmm,

265
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:34.680
absolutely so tell us what would you
like to achieve? What what's something that

266
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:41.680
you'd like to achieve, Say maybe
now or a couple of months from now,

267
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.839
or maybe even within before the end
of the year. What do you

268
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.880
want to achieve. Well, this
year, I've just turned sixty, So

269
00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:00.359
yeah, I think there's so much
that I still need to do. I

270
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:06.240
think we are so blessed that we
live in a world where sixty is a

271
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.000
wonderful, wise age, but it's
not the end. I think it was

272
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:18.480
Bismarck that started the whole concept around
retirement, which was actually just a kind

273
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.640
of a financial thing that he implemented. But in my mind, what do

274
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.519
I still want to achieve. I've
got another teen years that I really want

275
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:37.359
to work and do my life's work, which is really empowering women. I've

276
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:44.519
got a granddaughter she's three now,
and I've got a daughter she is a

277
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:49.519
lawyer, and I have a responsibility
to create a world which is free of

278
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:56.240
bias. So what I want to
achieve still is to make sure that we

279
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:03.119
embrace diversity, that we we have
a fair world where everybody has a fair

280
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:11.519
chance to be successful. MM.
So is there anything right now that your

281
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.720
company has going on that may be
coming up on the horizon that any type

282
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.279
of training that you might want to
let us know about, or you know

283
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.839
that that's in the way, something
maybe you're putting together that you'd like to

284
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:33.559
to share with the audience. Well, we are always busy with projects,

285
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.640
training projects and so on, but
thank you for the opportunity. I think

286
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:45.880
from our side, we are starting
a woman empowering webinar serious. We will

287
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:55.480
be working with giving business trips to
young entrepreneurs that's starting arts in business and

288
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.759
that would be a monthly thing and
that would be advertised and there would be

289
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:06.920
a pain around that on our website. Okay, So in hearing you say

290
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:14.240
that if there was someone who wanted
advice from you about getting into the same

291
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.359
industry that you're in, what would
you tell them? What do you think

292
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.160
the first thing they would need to
do to prepare themselves to get into that

293
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:30.279
industry. I think the first thing
is that you need to understand the industry.

294
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:37.880
So and for every country there's different
rules that apply, you know in

295
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:45.319
the countries, so so decide where
you are going to focus. For me,

296
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:52.119
my international work was very much on
consulting two big corporates, so it

297
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:59.920
wasn't as much on establishing a training
intervention per se. Was more consulting side

298
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.880
of talent managements and so forth.
But if you are going to get into

299
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:15.279
the learning and development space, familiarize
yourself with the the what is needed for

300
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:22.839
that specific country. And also I
think if you are going to think about

301
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:30.680
we've got a very strong accredited drive
in our country for accredited programs, which

302
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:37.279
does not play in the business school
area. So because we know that if

303
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:42.559
you want to come into a learning
space in South Africa, you are going

304
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:47.519
to be lost. If you are
not accredited with programs, people will not

305
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.400
utilize your services because that kind of
gives credit to your institution as well.

306
00:32:53.960 --> 00:33:00.680
So I think that's the first thing
that I would advise people on is to

307
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.880
make sure that you understand your markets
that you are going to do business and

308
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:14.200
and then for us as well,
you don't have to be everything. I

309
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:20.960
believe in networks. I believe in
holding networks with other business people. You

310
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.640
know, we might not have a
program, but we can there's always a

311
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:30.240
share of a project that we can
share with somebody else by utilizing their expertise

312
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:37.000
or their programs or whatever. Take
hands. It's it's really benefited as without

313
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:44.079
having to reinvent the wheel around things. Okay, okay, So if any

314
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:49.519
of our viewers and listeners might want
to reach out to you for some additional

315
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.720
information or maybe like you said,
just to find out maybe what they might

316
00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:00.440
need to do to understand how to
do business in your country, some of

317
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.440
the countries that you've done business in. How can they reach out to you?

318
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:12.280
So I think the best always is
to go to our website that we've

319
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.480
got all our email addresses of our
senior teams on there as well, and

320
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:24.639
also that's our contact details, so
it's w w w ubukle hr dot coza,

321
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:31.360
CEO dot z A and I can
share that, but our website is

322
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:39.199
where all the information is and the
contact details and my personal email address is

323
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:45.280
also available on the website. Okay, well, thank you so much.

324
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.840
You've shared some breat nuggets with us. I appreciate you coming on. I

325
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:55.119
think before we came on screen,
you said that it was Women's month in

326
00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.840
South Africa, so it was great
to have you here to be able to

327
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.800
celebrate that and have you to come
on and share some nuggets in regards to

328
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:15.920
organizational development and leadership. And I
mean it's we've just appreciated you being here.

329
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.920
And again I know the time difference, so we appreciate you taking time

330
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.639
out of your schedule to come on
and share with us. So thank you

331
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:31.199
again if you'd like to put your
information again, just let everybody know if

332
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.599
they want to reach out, if
you want to let them know one more

333
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:39.559
time, that would be great.
Can I tell this to do say thank

334
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.360
you, doctor Medlin, thank you
for inviting me on your program, and

335
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:50.960
thank you for the work that you
are doing to empower women across the world.

336
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.840
It is greatly appreciated, and it's
wonderful to know that we've got other

337
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:02.280
warriors out there that is change in
the world step by step in small little

338
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.599
barts. We've all got daughters,
we've all got granddaughters. So thank you

339
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:13.400
for that. Absolutely, absolutely,
again, thank you so much for being

340
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:19.679
here with us. You've been listening
to my guests, Miss Lisa crazy.

341
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:25.159
Did I get that right? Right? Right? So much? Now I'm

342
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.199
going to do what I usually do
around this time is share some upcoming events

343
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:36.360
that I have that will be coming
up that I have. And the first,

344
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:42.800
of course, is that you can
now again pre order your copies of

345
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:49.119
the Own It anthology It's Your Life, Own It Unapologetically and the journal three

346
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:54.639
hundred and sixty five days to transformation. To pre order the paperback book and

347
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:01.039
the journal separately, each one by
themselves is twenty four ninety nine. To

348
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:07.599
order the complete set, which is
both the book and the journal, that

349
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.679
would be forty nine ninety nine.
To order your copies, you can email

350
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:19.039
me at info at EXWSI dot com
or you can go to my website which

351
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:27.239
is www dot EXWSI dot com.
I'd like to also let you know to

352
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.880
make sure to tune in to the
Black Business Olympics this month. It's taking

353
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.760
place this week August twenty feet through
the twenty seventh, and as you know,

354
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:44.400
the Black Business Olympics is a fundraiser
to provide scholarships and laptops to high

355
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:51.679
school seniors going to college and K
through twelve entrepreneurs. The back Black Business

356
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:58.800
Olympics showcases black businesses, black business
owners and corporations all around the world.

357
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.280
And if you'd like to be a
speaker to showcase your business on the Black

358
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.599
Business Olympics, you can also email
me for information on that and email me

359
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:15.320
at info at e x WSI dot
com. And just as a special note,

360
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:21.880
I will be speaking tonight on the
Black Business Olympics at seven pm Eastern

361
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.800
Standard time. If you'd like to
tune in, you can go on YouTube

362
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.960
put in Black Business Olympics and then
click on the live session. Also coming

363
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:37.360
up on the right horizon in October
is my Show Up to Rise Up Women's

364
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:43.000
Summit. To find out more about
the event or to be a speaker at

365
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:51.000
the event, you can email me
at info at ex WSI dot com.

366
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:57.360
And I've been also letting you know
about the that you'll be able to join

367
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:02.639
the Show Up to Rise Up Network
work and the mission of course of the

368
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.760
the women Show Up to Rise Up
Network will be to empower and connect all

369
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:14.800
women all around the world in their
career, business, professional and personal lives

370
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:22.079
by helping them gain resources, to
gain buying power, to help increase their

371
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:29.800
revenue, and to accelerate their personal
business and career growth through different opportunities that

372
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.840
may come about. As a member, you will have access to coaching,

373
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:40.039
training, events, workshops, resources, networking opportunities and so much more.

374
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.960
And if you have not yet viewed
my TEDx talk which I did in Vancouver,

375
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.480
Canada, make sure to do so. The topic of course is show

376
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:58.039
Up to Rise Up and you can
watch the TEDx talk on YouTube. To

377
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.840
do so, you can just go
to you to put in my name doctor

378
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.519
Madelin and Lewis in the search box, or if you'd like you and you

379
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:13.159
want the direct link, you can
email me at info at exwsi dot com

380
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.039
and I'll email you the direct link. Make sure to check it out because

381
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:22.800
again I am so excited. It's
still rising, still getting lots of views

382
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:30.000
on Right now the views are at
one hundred seventy four thousand, seventy So

383
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:36.000
thank you all the ones that have
viewed it, have shared it, have

384
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.239
commented on it, has supported it
in different ways. Thank you so much.

385
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.440
Continue to push it out there.
As I said, I want to

386
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:49.079
reach a million plus women around the
world, have them to see the video,

387
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.679
and just be able to provide that
outreach to them. I am also

388
00:40:52.719 --> 00:41:00.559
a contributing writer to the own It
magazine where I share nuts and resources every

389
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:07.800
month. Own It Magazine as a
resource for personal, professional and business development,

390
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.559
So make sure if you'd like to
get a subscription. For an annual

391
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.960
subscription to the magazine, you can
go to my website which is uh www

392
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:27.239
dot ex wsi dot com and you'll
be able to get an annual subscription if

393
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.559
you'd like. If you'd like for
me to send you a sample copy of

394
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:37.199
the magazine, email me at info
at e x WSI dot com. So

395
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:44.519
I want to I would like to
thank my guests again, Miss Lisa Cracy,

396
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.239
and my viewers and listeners for joining
me today. Of course, you

397
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:57.480
know this has been the successful women's
show. I'm doctor Madelin Lewis and as

398
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.559
you know, if you'd like to
reach out to me, i am on

399
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.679
all the social media sites. You
can also email me at info at EXWSI

400
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:15.519
dot com or go to my website
which is www dot exwsi dot com.

401
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.679
And while you're there on the website, make sure you download my free three

402
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:30.599
part video series on three things every
woman should do to position herself for executive

403
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.639
leadership. Also, make sure to
sign up for my online course which is

404
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:43.000
Cracked the Career Code how to Lead
with Confidence, Charisma and Credibility. To

405
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:47.920
sign up for the online course,
you can go to www dot Crack the

406
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:54.400
Careercode dot com. Again, I'm
on all the social media sites. Don't

407
00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.800
forget to subscribe to our channel,
which is my YouTube channel and talk for

408
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.880
TV channel. Make sure you share
this episode, like the episode and just

409
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.119
send it out there to friends,
family, and colleagues. We had some

410
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:15.079
great information that was shared with us
today by my guest, Miss Lisa crazy

411
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:22.039
again. This is a success for
women's show. We are here every week

412
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.480
at two pm Eastern Standard time.
I am your host, Doctor Madeline and

413
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:35.079
lewis helping women to accelerate the path
to success. Thank you again to my

414
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.000
guests. Thank you all to my
viewers and my listeners. I love you

415
00:43:39.159 --> 00:44:04.039
all to life, So be well
and stay safe out there. Then have

416
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:15.239
and me H