Inside Out Coaching

Join Dr. Lewis in a conversation with Barbara Fromant, Transformation Consultant. Barbara (known as Barbs) Fromant is passionate about empowering women to walk out the fullness of who God created them to be in every relationship and area of their life...
Join Dr. Lewis in a conversation with Barbara Fromant, Transformation Consultant. Barbara (known as Barbs) Fromant is passionate about empowering women to walk out the fullness of who God created them to be in every relationship and area of their life and work. She is a High Performance, Transformational Life, Leadership Development, Spiritual, and Business coach, as well as the creator of a Women's Business Start-Up Mastermind & a Women's Coaching Group. Email: barbarafromant@outlook.com
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Radio. I got the I Did
you know women represent just three percent of
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Hi. I'm doctor Madelenie Lewis,
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President and CEO of the Executive Women's
Success Institute. I have decades of experience
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in the military, the federal government, and corporate America, and my mission
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is to help women succeed and tap
into their full potential. I want to
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reach a million plus women around the
world to become the leaders they are meant
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to be. So if you want
to move into a management or executive level
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position, or maybe you're a female
veteran transitioning out of the military into business
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entrepreneurship, then reach out to the
Executive Women's Success Institute at three zero one
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six nine three two eight four let
us get you on the fast track to
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success. Well. Hello, and
welcome to the Success for Women's Show,
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where you can view us on Talk
for TV and listen to us on the
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Women for Women Network. I am
doctor Madeline and lewis your host, and
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my mission is to help women accelerate
the path to success. Well, today's
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topic is inside out Coaching and my
guest is Miss Barbara fromont and I hope
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I pronounced that correctly. Barbara,
let me just give you a little bit
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of background about her. Barbara,
known as Barbs from my is passionate about
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empowering women to walk out the fullness
of who God created them to be in
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every relationship and area of their life
and work. She is a high performance,
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transformational life leadership development spiritual and business
coach, as well as the creator
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of a woman's business startup Mastermind and
a women's coaching group. For over twenty
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years, she has worked in the
corporate world, helping executives and teams to
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thrive and become more efficient. Her
mission is to empower women to master themselves,
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their relationships, and their purpose in
life by helping them to raise their
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consciousness and unleash their intuition. I'd
like to bring on to the show,
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miss Barbara format everyone, Hi,
love me to be with you. Last
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name correctly, is it fromat you
did? Yes? Yes, that's fine.
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Right. Well, here's the thing. I usually give the standard bio
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on all my guests, but then
I like to ask my guests to just
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tell us what you want us to
know about Barbara fromat WOW. I think
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I'm very aligned to what I've read
about you in terms of my greatest passion
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being to really empower women to fulfill
their highest potential and to really understand all
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the things that get in the way
of that. And for me, it's
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been quite a long journey, so
I've learned a lot through my MBA,
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through my coaching, through my twenty
years in corporate and I just love sort
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of sharing those nuggets of wisdom and
best practice with women and blowing the ceiling
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or all they're limiting beliefs and things
that have held them back and wrong thinking
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and just sort of setting them on
a new trajectory. That's what just lights
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my candles. And tell me,
do you most of the people that you
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work with as far as coaching,
I know you said you help executive team
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in their teams or is it mostly
women or is it a mixture of boat
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Yes, it is mostly women.
I mean in my corporate career, I
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did work closely with the leadership team, so I'm used to working with executives
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and teams, but I've now a
sort of honed in on women. That's
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my real passion because I've seen a
lot of things go on in corporate boardrooms
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and things diminishing behaviors there. And
I've also become quite an expert in terms
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of diminishing relationships at home or you
know, in domestic settings. So that's
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really what's propelled me to go forward
in every area examining these issues that are
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sometimes you know, hidden under the
carpet, but for me, they are
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the things that sort of move the
needle. We take the little those things
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and really deal with anything or anyone
in whatever environment that's diminishing women and equip
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them with the tools, the strategies, the language to navigate that well.
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Because from my experience anyway, this
is what's really lacking in the Western world
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in our education system. And it's
my passion because you know, for example,
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I went on a corporate training for
presentation skills workshop and these women were
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real high flyers, sort of banker
from investment banking and all these backgrounds,
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so they knew how to present.
There was no problem with their presentation skills.
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The course was ninety nine percent psychology
and it was all about, really
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when we got to the crux of
it, unraveling the situation in those two
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in boardrooms where they'd been diminished,
and that is what was behind them not
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being able to present well. They
hadn't known how to respond assertively and gracefully,
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or that they hadn't the language and
the tools. And I thought,
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my goodness, me, you know, that's what got me thinking on this
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journey, this is ridiculous that the
huge gap that even really intelligent women,
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you know, across the board,
we all seemed to suffer from this,
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you know, not being powered with
the right tools and strategies to hold ourselves
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well and to also understand consciousness and
the part that plays in our leadership styles,
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understand ourselves and what we're projecting.
So all the stuff is really really
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important. Yet when we're on the
trademal of our careers and it's all about
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you know, upskilling and the next
skill and all the stuff, which is
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all well and good, But until
you do the work on your inn the
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inner work on your identity and consciousness, you're going to keep attracting the same
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relationships and patterns that are dysfunctional often
and damaging. And yet we are not
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really equipped with the right tools to
know how to effectively cure them permanently or
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even just tweak certain things instead of
going from one extreme to the other.
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These conversations aren't really had. And
these other things in my experience that move
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the needle from women. Absolutely,
Wow, that is so key. So
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tell us why is learning about self
mastery so important for aspiring professional women and
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entrepreneurs. I know that you look
into that a lot, so tell us
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about that. Well, this is
this is again going back to consciousness,
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which I sort of learned in depth
on my MBA and it was quite staggered,
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if I'm honest, that I'd never
really heard about this stuff until then
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to this degree. So you know, understanding consciousness and how to permanently and
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effectively deal with the ego wounds that
we all have is so pivotal because at
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each level of success, as they
say, at each level, there's a
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new devil. But what happens is
we can even work on these ego wounds
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to a certain degree and think we've
nailed them, but if we haven't killed
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them properly, they pop up again
at the next lept. So you know,
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this is fundamental mental in terms of
getting accelerating your transformation in every area.
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And this is what people don't really
understand or are conscious about because these
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conversations aren't had. They try and
work on everything else, but that's not
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what's going to move the needle.
So, for example, if I give
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you, I think most people would
have come across maybe the eniogram in corporate
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circles, and that sort of outlines
sort of nine basic personality types. We've
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all got these shadow personality types to
lesser or great or greater degrees. But
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in my experience like the first one
helper across the board. Women are all
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guilty of that. We all have
too much helper. And that's also because
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we've been conditioned. In most societies, that's the way women and young girls
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are brought up. It's good,
it's lovely to be helpful, and I'm
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not saying it's not. It's a
good thing to be helpful to a degree,
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but then it gets out of hand
and we start, you know,
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too much helpers. So we feel
guilty if we're not always helping, and
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then we start feeling resentful, and
we start experiencing burnout. And yet you
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know what happens then is that we
continue to attract more people into our life
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that need that kind of help,
and so we get more and more exasperated.
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I'm helping, I'm helping, and
you know why is this happening?
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And the cure is bitter and deeper
self care. And we think, oh,
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yeah, I know that on one
level, but that's selfish, that's
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you know, that's that's wrong,
that's that's selfish. Yeah, everybody else
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above myself. But until we actually
implement that at a very deep level,
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we just go on to attract people
that need that help and drain us.
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And so this is this is a
basic sort of thing on the consciousness scale,
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and we should be aware of its
kind of obvious. But again mainstream
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education wasn't really pointed out neither does
it point out what the cures are,
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what the only cures that are effective
that will work. So for example,
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also like with something that I had
which I thought and in society was celebrated
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as a great attribute, which was
my hatred of conflict as a peace lover.
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But you know, I was too
much on that on the fast scale
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of avoiding conflict, you know,
in my family, trying to keep the
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peace. Da da da da da. So for years and years, all
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I kept attracting was more and more
drama and more and more conflict. I
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shouldn't understand it. Nobody explained the
stuff to me, because actually that is
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not a good thing. In extreme. What I was meant to be learning
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was to do conflict well, not
to avoid it all together. So it's
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these kind of things that you know, the lightbulbs just go off for women
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when I start explaining consciousness and the
eniogram and practical terms, you know,
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it is really really life changing because
they not only are you identifying these shadow
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personalities in yourself, but you're you're
identifying them and the people you work with
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and therefore and live with. You're
able to handle them much better because you
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know the cure, not only that
you need, that they need, and
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when you apply that, that's what
works and stops the same dysfunctional patterns from
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coming in and sort of exacerbating.
And they're only exascerpating and getting worse because
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God is trying to show you something
needs healing here. But the problem is
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that ninety nine percent of the population
lives unconsciously. They live on default,
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they live on autopilot, they live
on survival mode. One percent lives consciously.
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And when you actually reflect on those
statistics, you think, my God,
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truly this can't be true. But
it is because the stuff isn't taught.
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This is what everybody needs to accelerate
every area of their life. Wow,
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you know you touched on an area
when you talked about the conflicts.
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I was talking to actually my niece
just yesterday, as a matter of fact,
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and she called me to tell me
about some drama that was going on,
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and what the things I asked her, I said, why is it
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all these things keep coming at you
like this, and she says, I
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don't know, because I'm always trying
to mind my own business. I'm always
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trying to keep the peace. I'm
always, you know, trying to avoid
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getting into any kind of confrontation.
She says, I just don't understand it.
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I said, well, maybe that's
the problem right there, exactly exactly
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that, and sometimes we need I
mean, I would have needed a spelling
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out as well. You know,
it's it's, it's, it's. It
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was a complete mental block for me. I just know, I'm an intelligent
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woman, but I I didn't get
it. I didn't get it, you
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know, I sort of yeah,
it's and I'm not the only one.
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I come across a lot of very
intelligent women who it's like a complete blight
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bulb. Yeah, it's it's like, you know, because she's so mild
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man and I taught and that one
another thing I told her. I said,
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you know, because you're the way
you are, a lot of people
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can read people and they see this
in you. And so that's why that
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you know, those opposite people opposite
from the way you are, that's what
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you attract and that's why you always
get this drama going on and this and
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this is this is also another touching
on a very clothes something close to my
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heart about sort of like emotional any
other form of abuse. Again, because
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it's not something that we are taught
in schools and we grow up in our
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society keeping taught about. So there's
a lot of confusion and also a lot
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of confusion in Christian circles about what
how to behave and react to it and
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everything else. But you know,
as our NBA teachers said, look,
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you know, young people who are
abused or older ones who abused, it's
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nobody's fault. But the reality is
that they are doing something at some level
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to attract that behavior. And it's
shocking. It's shocking when you think of
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it like that, but it's it's
you know, the way I see life
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now is this this constant innogram,
this constant scale you know of consciousness.
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You know, things are popping up. We need to tweak that a bit.
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If we go to an extreme,
then something else will come into our
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life. To think, now you're
going too much an extreme. Come back
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to the middle. Yeah, nobody
talks about if we just knew the stuff,
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we would save our site decades.
A party trying to figure it out,
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and you know, and certainly women
in those sort of cycles, even
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you know, bosses or you know, a lot of men are very dominant
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in corporate environments and intimidatory and all
this kind of stuff. This again,
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is where the stuff comes into its
own because it affects our leadership style.
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So you know, unless we are
you know, going about creating what they
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call synchronistic relationships, this is where
you know, we actually are able to
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hold our own power. We don't
give our own any power away. We
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hold onto our power. We remain
fixed on our vision, and we hold
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fast to our boundaries, and we're
unaffected by the style of anyone with whom
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we're interacting. So these strong,
aggressive, intimidatory, coercive, manipulative types
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do not affect us. Once we
know how to hold ourselves, once we're
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conscious and we can see what they're
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And it is the most liberating thing
when you have you know, maybe suffered
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some form of emotional abuse and you
have not had the tools and the language
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to articulate that well navigate it at
all, and then suddenly into the be
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in this position where you have the
power and That is what I love coaching
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women on because you the transformation is
huge, and that is where I believe
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God's heart is for each one of
the women to you know, be able
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to live out the fullness of our
potential because in all shapes and forms and
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society and relationships at work, home, even you know, you must often
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encounter it, maybe with racial thing. There's these things going on that we
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are meant to take charge of.
But until you start understanding the consciousness side
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up. But you know, I
just really think it's it's such an effective
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and powerful way of understanding it,
curing it, holding onto your power.
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And once you do that, that
is what changes you. That's what changes
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your outer reality, and that is
what changes everyone around you. I have
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been married for twenty eight years and
I nearly went through a divorce three times,
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which happy now, but I can
honestly say, and I've done a
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lot of inner work on myself.
But when I changed myself with this stuff
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and God speaking into my identity to
walk out the fullness of my God given
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identity with authority, when I allowed
him to speak into who I was in
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him and reveal himself to who I
was and him, you know, all
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the stuff you know, really changed, and I believe that's a journey in
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a process that most women need to
go on to and not be scared about
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going on, because it's going to
liberate them into the fullness of who they
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created to be. Absolutely. Now, do you think there's anything specific that
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they can do that would help them
to become say, unshakable and stressful and
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taxic environs environments when they're at work
or you know, are at home.
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Yeah, I mean, I think
one of the biggest things, and I've
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come across this with all women's boundaries. Again, this is another thing that
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is appalling in terms of the education
we receive and the conversations we have.
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So I'm very grateful and thankful to
you for raising the awareness on these issues.
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But you know, again, understanding
and articulating boundaries, menting them,
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enforcing them, maintaining them, understand
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to express them when boundaries are crossed. All this stuff is really very very
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important and and also worth its its
weight and goal to get coaching around because
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you know, it's it is so
important in terms of managing toxic environments as
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well. I think again it's it's
it's more about understanding consciousness. It's more
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about going on this journey of living
out your purpose fully understanding your God given
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up identity and walking that out that
with authority, the authority God gives us
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and wants us to have. Because
when we start doing that and living our
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purpose, the purpose that we're meant
to be living, we stop needing the
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approval of others. Honestly, yea, I could't believe it when it happened
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to me. I really, and
it takes you to a different level where
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you kind of really you don't care
about the praises or the criticism of men
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because you're on your course. It's
like as as like a self actualization thing.
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That is where we all need to
get to. So if we can
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accelerate and help women accelerate to get
there, they're going to you know,
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make the most of their potential from
that point, because you know, it's
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it's It's why I call my coaching
company inside out Coaching, Life and Leadership
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Coaching, because all transformation comes from
the inside out. We have to become
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the people we need to be first
in order to attract and steward well the
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success we want. So that's an
identity piece. And our whole society is
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about you know, the doing,
calling the D D D doing all they're
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doing, all they're doing, but
that you know that is not working on
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your character and identity. That's what's
going to move the needle because when that
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is unshakable, that's when you can
build everything else. It's it's the foundation.
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And you know the thing with identity
is that I think we could all,
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no matter what stage of life we're
at, we could all benefit from
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continual coaching on our God given identity
because there is a layer upon layer upon
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layer upon layer, and He's got
more for us in every single area of
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our life. And it's it just
goes on opening up. And that's what's
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so fabulous about it. But absolutely
because we don't do this work trying to
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build on flimsy foundations and we'll get
to a certain level of success, But
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because we haven't worked on our character
and our identity to an equal extent,
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that is when the problems come.
But people don't understand that. Wow.
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synergistic relationships. What is the importance of
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proactively nurturing the right synergistic relationships and
creating the right inner circle. Yeah,
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absolutely huge. So I talk about consciousness,
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and so part of this is also
understanding the relationship styles from which you've
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come. Your parents, for example, So if you've come from a sort
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of co dependent if your parents have
like a codependent relationship, it's likely that
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you're probably gonna adopt some of those
traits and attract a similar sort of relationship.
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we're all capable of evolving when we
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know these tools, and we can
evolve. And you know, so evolving
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from say a codependent relationship where you
are, you know, sucking each other's
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energy, you're so dependent on each
other and you can't make decisions on your
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own and it's stifling and everything else, to a synergistic relationship, which is
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one where if you think of yourself
and the other person as two circles,
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you're in no way overlapping each other. You're just touching each other on the
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borders. And how I like to
think about it is that it is they
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are very empowering relationships. So one
is not in any way overshadding shadowing the
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other person. You are bouncing off
each other. So it's like brainstorming,
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you know, when you sometimes they
are in a conversation with a like minded
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soul. Get this with coaches,
and you start talking and you spark off
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each other and you sparkle the energy, they spark off your energy, and
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it's it just like combusts into something
beautiful, but in no way feel threatened
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or intimidated by you know, each
other's you know, a personality or whatever.
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That is a fully, fully sallergistic
relationship. So it's it is difficult
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for women. And I was in
this situation for a lot of a lot
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of the time. If you are
in families and things with people who are
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negative and who critical, who are
energy drainers, who can also feel jealous
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and threatened by your achievements, by
your success, and and then you know
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you don't have the right support,
You don't have people adding to you.
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The people that are in your life
are are not really adding to you,
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They're just training you. So it
is es seem sure to create and strategically
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and intentionally create the in a circle
of the five people you are going to
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spend your most time with. And
this is the journey that sort of God
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took me on because I couldn't really
find the right when I was starting on
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our business, the right people in
my church. And you know, I
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kept looking and all the group wasn't
created, or I'd find a mastermind enough
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to pay lots of money. I
don't want to pay lots of money.
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And then he led me to read
Think and Grow Rich, which is a
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classic novel that most people will have
read by Napoleon Hill. And what's fascinating
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about that is it It documents the
lives of ten of the most successful men
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in history, the likes of Theodore
Rusa full Bell, all these people,
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and the book is about cultivating spiritual
abundance in every area of your life,
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and that includes, you know,
creating wealth and having a successful career or
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whatever whatever they did, which they
did do. But this single reason that
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each of them attributed their success,
their greatest success too, was being part
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of a mastermind. And in that
mastermind they were able to pour into each
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other. And you know, they
are others to pour into themselves, and
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they poured into their communities. So
regardless of what you believe, there was
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very strong spiritual principles at play there
that attributed to their success. And that
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was this being part of a community
and pouring your skills into others and letting
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them pour them theirs into yours,
sharing them and also blessing using what you've
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been given your talents to bless your
communities. And as these men did this,
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they not only became the wealthiest men, but they became the most happiest
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and fulfilled. So, you know, I thought, this is what I
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need asways starting up my business.
I thought, oh, God's saying,
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start up your own master mind.
I said, I don't know how to
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I haven't got the skills. I
don't know how to do. I'm the
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stretch under the time and the enjine
and all the six uses, nor long
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or and then eat. What popped
up on my phone one day was a
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summary from Audible out to structure and
run your own master mind based on think
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and grow rich. Well, I
know when God's talking to me. And
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that was more than a coast.
All right, God, all right,
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I'll do it. But it's going
to have to be really simple, and
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it's going to have to add value
to everybody concern. So I literally went
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to a networking group and people,
this is where I talk about synchronicities,
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because I wouldn't have believed it before
if I hadn't lived it. People in
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this networking I don't know if I'm
Adam. They come to me and start
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saying, well, they want to
join a Mastermind group, and I mean
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it was just joining and I've now
set up this Mastermind group. We meet
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monthly. It's completely free, women
all around the UK and it is just
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so empowering. We've got a WhatsApp
group. We keep everything simple, minimum
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of slides. We take it in
turns to host the meeting. So as
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I've said, it's it's not I'm
not the leader. I'm We're all empowering
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each other and we go on like
that. We run it on the structure,
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we bring our business issue and the
other's brainstorm on it. We've got
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a wide field expertise and honestly it
has taken us all to a different level
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because a lot of us are We're
on our own on this very lonely entrepreneurial
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journey and God has just done incredible
things. We cover each other in prayer
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and it's just miracle after miracle after
miracle. So I tell you that to
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really sort of encourage women, and
that's what I gave My testimony in church
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about as well was you know,
if you cannot find the right in a
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circle, God could be prompting you
to start your own and to pay attention
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to that, because my life and
my business and my dreams for my business
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were largely on hold and it didn't
take off until I obeyed that leading and
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I stepped out and I did something
about it. And now I've got the
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support structure that I need to discuss
practical stuff, business stuff. I've also
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got the spiritual support and covering,
you know, which which we all need
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as well. And it's wonderful and
I don't have to, you know,
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feel frustrated with my family because then
they're different to me, and they don't
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get lit up by coaching or the
things that I do, because I've got
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like minded souls who I can now
who energize me and encourage me and hold
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me accountable. So these are really
important principles because also if we're going to
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develop our highest potential, we have
to have accountability, and that's where mastermind
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and coaching and things like that are
very important. So these synergistic relationships of
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everything, as far as I'm concerned. Now, you also, you know,
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I noticed that you mentioned God a
lot in your conversation, and you
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also talked about the fact that you
help empower women to walk out the fullness
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of who God created them to be
any every area of their life. So
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how do you feel a person can
start hearing God for themselves and how do
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you help them to achieve that?
Do you help them too? Yes,
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yes, yes. So the coaching
model that I trained on is sort of
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I see accredited coaching model with a
spiritual edge. So what it does is
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it facilitates sort of three way conversations
between the coach, God and the coaching
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and these life these encounters are truly
life changing. I mean, one of
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the colleagues that are that was on
the training course with me, he happens
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to be one of the UK's leading
mediators and executive coaches and he's been and
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had his practice for fourteen fifteen years
and he just sat with his mouth open
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throughout the whole training and he just
said, this is just coaching on steroids.
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as well as the consciousness work and
other but from other models, but
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this is the thing that moves the
needle because you know, I can find
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that people come in with all sorts
of presenting issues saying, oh, this
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is the mountain. Until I move
this mountain, I can't move on with
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my life. But the reality is
that when you when they hear God for
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themselves and they know they've heard it
because they know only God could know the
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stuff that he's revealing to them,
it's literally like a walking on water moment.
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coaching conversation is, you know,
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not only they're being transformed before my
eyes, but I'm being transformed as a
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coach. And they when you connect
them to how God sees really and they
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put purpose, none of the other
stuff matters anymore, and it could be
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really major stuff. It is just
so fascinating to watch because literally they're just
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so fired up to get on with, you know, what God wants him
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to do. They're realized what's important. I'm here to multiply my talents.
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I'll stand alone at the end of
my life to give account for how I've
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multiplied those talents. And yeah,
all I've been doing is like the foolish
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service, burying them away out of
fearing and security and instead of you know,
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investing them wisely and multiplying them.
So I need to get on with
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it now. They're just so excited, and you know that is that is
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what. Yeah, the whole model
really works at a very deep heart level
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and is superior to anything else I've
come across. So that's how I use
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that model. But I also do
through the consciousness work, you know,
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certain practices to encourage people to sort
of tap into their intuition and their imagination
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because this is again an area where
our Western society we've been taught to think
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in our heads, in our rational
brain, and it takes a lot of
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unraveling because God puts the desires in
our hearts, not our hiss. So
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you know, it's it's a process, and I've got sort of like three
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step processes that i work with on
people to sort of start you know,
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tapping into and unleashing the power of
their intuition. And you know, it's
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it's not only our strongest sat now
in terms of giving directions, but what's
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so fascinating is when we start developing, you know, hearing our these and
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receiving these intuitive insights and hearing God, you know, it spills out into
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creativity innovation, marketing strategies, sales
strategies. This is what I was doing
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on my NBA. Honestly, this
guy does this stuff all the time,
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and he just completely wows corporate CEOs
because he goes in there with his white
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board and he gets them to start
tapping into their intuition and the things they
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come up with are just more groundbreaking
than all the competition. And he has
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the guts to go with it and
pursue it, and what comes out of
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that is just incredible. And that
that's the cutting edge in everything and every
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sphere. So if we can learn
to do that more, that's what that's
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that's what's so that's what I help
people do through a series of you know,
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processes and things and writing their vision
and tapping into that every day practices
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that these these men and think can
grow rich. They were envisioning they were
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doing, they understood the science,
and the Bible backs up the science.
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So you know, for example,
you know when I talk about vibration or
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states as well, and you talk
about sort of how can they create something
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that they want when they're in toxic
environments, Again, it boils back to
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the science, you know, and
consciousness often people are responding to them out
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of a negative vibrational state anger,
frustration, and patience. But we have
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the responsibility of raising our own vibrational
and emotional states. So we cannot create
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what we want, which is more
abundance and love and all those things,
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from a negative vibrational state and patience, anger, whatever. But yet we
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all try that, we all do
it. And this to me is again,
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you know, people say they're fairly
conscious, but they're not because they
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go on go on thinking they can
create what they want in their life from
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negative vibrational states. Well, it
just doesn't work like that. So we've
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got to learn to get ourselves back
up to those highest vibrational states as quickly
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as possible and to stay there,
which is why we're The Bible comes in
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and backs up everything that the quantum
science teaches us when it says in Philippians
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fourbo say, you know, dwell
on all things that are good and pure
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and lovely, because when you are
dwelling on everything that's good and you're on
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lovely, you're naturally in that state
that's there, and from that position you
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create what you want. But you
know, it's it's it's it's obvious on
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the one hand, but you know
when we live in two them all and
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stress and there's negative stuff going on, it is harder to you know,
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get back up there and and stay
there. But that's where you know,
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I've got the tools and things to
help people raise their consciousness and create what
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they love and start changing the paradigms
which are so wonderful to be part of.
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Absolutely. Now, another thing I
know that you help with is ego
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warns. What are ego warns?
And how can one deal? Are heal
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those types of wands. Yeah,
So when we're growing up, we all,
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you know, we all have ego
wounds and people who say they haven't
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got any ears, you know,
talking rubbish. So when we when our
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brain is swarming up until sort of
about our early twenties, we're in it
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very much in our in our rational
uh you know mind, and quite quite
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emotional as well sensitive and you know, these life happens, experiences happen to
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us all. So you know,
we we we we've all got things that
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affect our our ego. Our ego
is basically there to keep us safe,
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so you know, and and and
to protect us, which is good.
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When we were in ancient civilizations and
we had to run away from from wild
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animals and all that kind of stuff. But it's it really works against us
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if we don't understand it, because
it keeps us in our comfort zone.
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So yeah, ego wounds are things
like fear, rejection, all the things
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on the on the on the inniogram, you know, lack of trust,
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so you know, and and and
perhaps a fear of intimacy. So these
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are the are the woundings that you
know, through our experiences and in life
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as we're growing up, this is
what we make up about the world,
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about ourselves and about others, but
it might not necessarily be true true,
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So we have to unravel all of
that and actually heal those wounds. So
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if if I take an example,
like on the iniogram, an ego wound
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like we've talked about, might be
say rejection, or an ego wound might
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be like fear of intimacy for example, and what what how that's arisen the
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shadow personality for you know, someone
who fears intimacy is often somebody who's a
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real deep thinker, who who who
lives in their heads, who's very logic
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and rational and what have you,
and they want to be intimate with their
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other halves or whatever. They want
to have close relationships, but they just
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that that they can't be they can't
be you know, vulnerable. So it's
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it's it's learning all about the enneagram
and in essence and what the what the
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woundings are and what the cures are
for them. Again, overwhelmed was an
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interesting one when we're all under so
much stress, and this is something that
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I sort of suffered from a lot, and you know that the the the
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shadow personality that is quite weird.
Actually it's it's being overly positive and you
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often get that with with people who
are you know, being overly anything is
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not good. So this is how
I used to be thinking it was a
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good thing. You know, overly
positive. Got a lot of stress and
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everything else. But that is also
because at the heart of it, they
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don't like pain. They mask it. They mask pain with a delusion or
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positive outlook. So it's also learning
to sort of cure that and and become
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more comfortable with pain. So yeah, I haven't explained it very well,
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but when you when you when you
when you didn't work on the enneagram,
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it becomes clear. A great explanation
on it, which is you know,
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when you talked about the different the
different types of ego wants, I think
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when probably when people heard the word
ego, they were automatically thought maybe as
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something else, and that with some
of the things that you mentioned, which
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was great. I'm glad that you
kind of broke that down for us.
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We're almost coming to the end.
I mean, you've been self fantastic with
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the information that you shared with us. So tell me quickly, if you
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could tell me if you have one
piece of advice that you would leave with
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our viewers and our listeners, what
would that piece of advice be? Do
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the inner work on yourself. The
dividends are just beyond in terms of accelerating
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your transformation on every level. Coaching
on your identity and your consciousness is going
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to change the trajectory of your life
in every area beyond what you'd ever dream
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possible. So do that make that
investment. I wish I'd done it decades
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ago. Remember to me, I'd
tell you what this has been wonderful having
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you on the show. If you'd
like to tell our viewers and listeners if
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they want to reach out to you, if you want to tell them how
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they can connect with you feel free
to do so. So that because you've
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shared some great nuggets. So who
knows somebody maney have some additional questions to
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ask you? Yeah, sure,
I mean I'd love to hear from any
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of you. I am on LinkedIn
Barbara fromant Inside Out Life and Leadership,
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so you can DM me on me
on there. I don't know if you
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do you take email addresses or is
that yeah? Yeah, so I can.
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I can put my give you my
email address. It's Barbara fromant as
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you see in my name, no
dots between the Barbara fromant at outlook dot
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com and yes, drop me,
drop me an email. I am also
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doing my first free workshop on lee
fifth of October at seventeen thirty UK time,
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and i'd love you to join join
that if possible. I don't know
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if if you've got the link to
that where everybody can register. But that's
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basically really about you know, living, taking your life, relationships, business
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and career and living on your term, so dealing with acceleration in all these
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areas whether you're you know, so
that would be if you'd like to hear
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more about consciousness and all these things
that we've discussed on how they can transform
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your life. I will put a
I've got the link here, I think,
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and if I just pop that into
this chat here with that work or
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do I need to put it somewhere
out We can put it up on the
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screen so it'll run across, so
you can go ahead and put it in,
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and I will go ahead and let
them know upcoming events that I have
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coming up. But again, I
want to thank you for being on the
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show. Make sure you do put
that link in the chat and yeah,
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he said to type it there.
I want to thank you for being my
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guests. Barbara from att that's who
you have been listening to today on the
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Successful Women's Show. And while she's
putting her link in for her upcoming workshop,
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I'm gonna let you know some things
that's upcoming, some upcoming events that
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I have. Of course you know
about that. You can now pre order
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your copies of the On It anthology
It's Your Life on It Unapologetically and the
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journal three hundred and sixty five days
to transformation. To pre order the paperback
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book and journal separately will be twenty
four ninety nine for each book. To
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order. The complete set is the
book and the journal is forty nine nine
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nine, And if you want to
order your copies, you can go to
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or email me at info at EXWSI
dot com or you can actually go to
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my website. The direct links are
on the website www dot EXWSI dot com.
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And make sure to tune in this
month to the Black Business Olympics.
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Uh. It's going to be held
September twenty seven through October three. And
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as you know, the Black Business
Olympics is a fundraiser to provide scholarships and
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laptops to high school seniors going to
college and K through twelve entrepreneurs. The
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Black Business Olympics showcases black businesses,
black business owners and corporations all around the
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world. And if you'd like to
be a speaker on the Black Business Olympics,
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you can email me at info at
EXWSI dot com and make a note
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on your calendar. They're coming up
in uh January. I think it's the
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twenty fifth through the twenty seventh.
If I'm not making uh, I'm guessing
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right now, but it's I think
it's twenty fifth through the twenty seven.
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You will I will be having the
show up to Rise Up Women's Summit to
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find out more about the event or
to be a speaker at the event,
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you can email me at info at
EXWSI dot com and that's gonna be January
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twenty five, twenty fifth through the
twenty seven, twenty twenty four so email
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me if you'd like to be a
speaker or find out more information about the
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show Up to Rise Up Summit.
Also coming soon again, US two will
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be the show Up to Rise Up
Women's Network and the mission of the show
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women's show Up to Rise Up Network
will be to empower connect women in their
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career and businesses, professional and personal
lives and we'll be able to help you
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to gain resources, help you to
increase your revenue. Will just a lot
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of networking, a lot of information
and opportunities will be available to you.
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And as always, if you have
not listened to my TEDx talk, make
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sure you do so right now.
My talk is at one hundred and eighty
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five thousand, four hundred twenty three
views. I am trying to get it
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up to a million plus, so
make sure you watch it to the very
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end, make sure you share.
I want to thank those who have supported
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the videos so far because it is
still being pushed out there, so I
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want to thank all my views and
listeners for that. And as you know,
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I'm a contributing writer to own It
magazine where I share nuggets and resources
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every month. The magazine is a
resource for personal, professional, and business
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development. So make sure that you
get a copy of that. If you'd
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like to get a digital copy,
email me and I'll send you a link
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so you can see a sample of
the magazine. You can email me at
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info at ex w SI dot com. And if you want a subscription,
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you can go on my website for
subscription to the magazine, which is www
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dot EXWSI dot com. So again
I would like to thank my guests,
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Miss Barbara from IT and my viewers
and listeners. And I did not mention
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but Barbara fromatt came to us different
time zone. She came to us from
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the United Kingdom, so I really
want to thank her because the time difference
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there, she's a little later than
we are. I believe it's probably around
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seven almost eight o'clock at night there, So definitely want to thank her for
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joining us today. You've been listening, of course to the Successful Women's Show.
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I'm doctor Madelanee Lewis, and if
you want to reach out to me.
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Email me at info at ex WSI
dot com. Remember I'm on all
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the social media sites, so you
can also DM me on any of the
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sites. And I want to again
thank my guests, Miss Barbara from IT
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for being on the show, my
views, and my listeners for always tuning
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in and supporting us. And this
is the successful women's show. We're here
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every week and I am your host, Doctor Madelanee lewis helping women to accelerate
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the path to success. I want
to thank you all again for joining me
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to include my guests who joined us
all away from the United Kingdom. I
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love you all to life as always, be well and stay safe out there.
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Got the eye of the time.
I dan to do the chap and
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