Inside Out Coaching

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1:33 is to help women succeed and tap into their full potential. I want to reach a million plus women around the world to become the leaders they are meant to be. So if you want to move into a management or executive level position, or maybe you're a female veteran transitioning out of the military into business entrepreneurship, then reach out to the Executive Women's Success Institute at three zero one six nine three two eight four let us get you on the fast track to success. Well. Hello, and welcome to the Success for Women's Show, where you can view us on Talk for TV and listen to us on the Women for Women Network. I am doctor Madeline and lewis your host, and my mission is to help women accelerate the path to success. Well, today's topic is inside out Coaching and my guest is Miss Barbara fromont and I hope I pronounced that correctly. Barbara, let me just give you a little bit of background about her. Barbara, known as Barbs from my is passionate about empowering women to walk out the fullness of who God created them to be in

3:07 every relationship and area of their life and work. She is a high performance, transformational life leadership development spiritual and business coach, as well as the creator of a woman's business startup Mastermind and a women's coaching group. For over twenty years, she has worked in the corporate world, helping executives and teams to thrive and become more efficient. Her mission is to empower women to master themselves, their relationships, and their purpose in life by helping them to raise their consciousness and unleash their intuition. I'd like to bring on to the show, miss Barbara format everyone, Hi, love me to be with you. Last name correctly, is it fromat you did? Yes? Yes, that's fine.

4:16 Right. Well, here's the thing. I usually give the standard bio on all my guests, but then I like to ask my guests to just tell us what you want us to know about Barbara fromat WOW. I think I'm very aligned to what I've read about you in terms of my greatest passion being to really empower women to fulfill their highest potential and to really understand all the things that get in the way of that. And for me, it's been quite a long journey, so I've learned a lot through my MBA, through my coaching, through my twenty years in corporate and I just love sort of sharing those nuggets of wisdom and best practice with women and blowing the ceiling or all they're limiting beliefs and things that have held them back and wrong thinking and just sort of setting them on a new trajectory. That's what just lights my candles. And tell me, do you most of the people that you work with as far as coaching, I know you said you help executive team in their teams or is it mostly women or is it a mixture of boat Yes, it is mostly women. I mean in my corporate career, I did work closely with the leadership team, so I'm used to working with executives and teams, but I've now a sort of honed in on women. That's

5:47 my real passion because I've seen a lot of things go on in corporate boardrooms and things diminishing behaviors there. And I've also become quite an expert in terms of diminishing relationships at home or you know, in domestic settings. So that's really what's propelled me to go forward in every area examining these issues that are sometimes you know, hidden under the carpet, but for me, they are the things that sort of move the needle. We take the little those things and really deal with anything or anyone in whatever environment that's diminishing women and equip them with the tools, the strategies, the language to navigate that well.

6:38 Because from my experience anyway, this is what's really lacking in the Western world in our education system. And it's my passion because you know, for example, I went on a corporate training for presentation skills workshop and these women were real high flyers, sort of banker from investment banking and all these backgrounds, so they knew how to present. There was no problem with their presentation skills. The course was ninety nine percent psychology and it was all about, really when we got to the crux of it, unraveling the situation in those two in boardrooms where they'd been diminished, and that is what was behind them not being able to present well. They hadn't known how to respond assertively and gracefully, or that they hadn't the language and the tools. And I thought, my goodness, me, you know, that's what got me thinking on this journey, this is ridiculous that the huge gap that even really intelligent women, you know, across the board, we all seemed to suffer from this, you know, not being powered with the right tools and strategies to hold ourselves well and to also understand consciousness and the part that plays in our leadership styles, understand ourselves and what we're projecting. So all the stuff is really really

8:09 important. Yet when we're on the trademal of our careers and it's all about you know, upskilling and the next skill and all the stuff, which is all well and good, But until you do the work on your inn the inner work on your identity and consciousness, you're going to keep attracting the same relationships and patterns that are dysfunctional often and damaging. And yet we are not really equipped with the right tools to know how to effectively cure them permanently or even just tweak certain things instead of going from one extreme to the other. These conversations aren't really had. And these other things in my experience that move the needle from women. Absolutely, Wow, that is so key. So tell us why is learning about self mastery so important for aspiring professional women and entrepreneurs. I know that you look into that a lot, so tell us about that. Well, this is this is again going back to consciousness, which I sort of learned in depth on my MBA and it was quite staggered, if I'm honest, that I'd never really heard about this stuff until then to this degree. So you know, understanding consciousness and how to permanently and effectively deal with the ego wounds that we all have is so pivotal because at

9:41 each level of success, as they say, at each level, there's a new devil. But what happens is we can even work on these ego wounds to a certain degree and think we've nailed them, but if we haven't killed them properly, they pop up again at the next lept. So you know, this is fundamental mental in terms of getting accelerating your transformation in every area. And this is what people don't really understand or are conscious about because these conversations aren't had. They try and work on everything else, but that's not what's going to move the needle. So, for example, if I give you, I think most people would have come across maybe the eniogram in corporate circles, and that sort of outlines sort of nine basic personality types. We've all got these shadow personality types to lesser or great or greater degrees. But in my experience like the first one helper across the board. Women are all guilty of that. We all have too much helper. And that's also because we've been conditioned. In most societies, that's the way women and young girls are brought up. It's good, it's lovely to be helpful, and I'm not saying it's not. It's a good thing to be helpful to a degree, but then it gets out of hand and we start, you know, too much helpers. So we feel guilty if we're not always helping, and then we start feeling resentful, and we start experiencing burnout. And yet you

11:11 know what happens then is that we continue to attract more people into our life that need that kind of help, and so we get more and more exasperated. I'm helping, I'm helping, and you know why is this happening? And the cure is bitter and deeper self care. And we think, oh, yeah, I know that on one level, but that's selfish, that's you know, that's that's wrong, that's that's selfish. Yeah, everybody else above myself. But until we actually implement that at a very deep level, we just go on to attract people that need that help and drain us. And so this is this is a basic sort of thing on the consciousness scale, and we should be aware of its kind of obvious. But again mainstream education wasn't really pointed out neither does it point out what the cures are, what the only cures that are effective that will work. So for example, also like with something that I had which I thought and in society was celebrated as a great attribute, which was my hatred of conflict as a peace lover.

12:24 But you know, I was too much on that on the fast scale of avoiding conflict, you know, in my family, trying to keep the peace. Da da da da da. So for years and years, all I kept attracting was more and more drama and more and more conflict. I shouldn't understand it. Nobody explained the stuff to me, because actually that is not a good thing. In extreme. What I was meant to be learning was to do conflict well, not to avoid it all together. So it's these kind of things that you know, the lightbulbs just go off for women when I start explaining consciousness and the eniogram and practical terms, you know, it is really really life changing because they not only are you identifying these shadow personalities in yourself, but you're you're identifying them and the people you work with and therefore and live with. You're able to handle them much better because you know the cure, not only that you need, that they need, and when you apply that, that's what works and stops the same dysfunctional patterns from coming in and sort of exacerbating. And they're only exascerpating and getting worse because God is trying to show you something needs healing here. But the problem is that ninety nine percent of the population lives unconsciously. They live on default, they live on autopilot, they live on survival mode. One percent lives consciously.

13:54 And when you actually reflect on those statistics, you think, my God, truly this can't be true. But it is because the stuff isn't taught. This is what everybody needs to accelerate every area of their life. Wow, you know you touched on an area when you talked about the conflicts. I was talking to actually my niece just yesterday, as a matter of fact, and she called me to tell me about some drama that was going on, and what the things I asked her, I said, why is it all these things keep coming at you like this, and she says, I don't know, because I'm always trying to mind my own business. I'm always trying to keep the peace. I'm always, you know, trying to avoid getting into any kind of confrontation. She says, I just don't understand it.

14:45 I said, well, maybe that's the problem right there, exactly exactly that, and sometimes we need I mean, I would have needed a spelling out as well. You know, it's it's, it's, it's. It was a complete mental block for me. I just know, I'm an intelligent woman, but I I didn't get it. I didn't get it, you know, I sort of yeah, it's and I'm not the only one. I come across a lot of very intelligent women who it's like a complete blight bulb. Yeah, it's it's like, you know, because she's so mild man and I taught and that one another thing I told her. I said, you know, because you're the way you are, a lot of people can read people and they see this in you. And so that's why that you know, those opposite people opposite from the way you are, that's what you attract and that's why you always get this drama going on and this and this is this is also another touching on a very clothes something close to my heart about sort of like emotional any other form of abuse. Again, because it's not something that we are taught in schools and we grow up in our society keeping taught about. So there's a lot of confusion and also a lot of confusion in Christian circles about what how to behave and react to it and everything else. But you know, as our NBA teachers said, look, you know, young people who are abused or older ones who abused, it's

16:15 nobody's fault. But the reality is that they are doing something at some level to attract that behavior. And it's shocking. It's shocking when you think of it like that, but it's it's you know, the way I see life now is this this constant innogram, this constant scale you know of consciousness. You know, things are popping up. We need to tweak that a bit. If we go to an extreme, then something else will come into our life. To think, now you're going too much an extreme. Come back to the middle. Yeah, nobody talks about if we just knew the stuff, we would save our site decades. A party trying to figure it out, and you know, and certainly women in those sort of cycles, even you know, bosses or you know, a lot of men are very dominant in corporate environments and intimidatory and all this kind of stuff. This again, is where the stuff comes into its own because it affects our leadership style.

17:22 So you know, unless we are you know, going about creating what they call synchronistic relationships, this is where you know, we actually are able to hold our own power. We don't give our own any power away. We hold onto our power. We remain fixed on our vision, and we hold fast to our boundaries, and we're unaffected by the style of anyone with whom we're interacting. So these strong, aggressive, intimidatory, coercive, manipulative types do not affect us. Once we know how to hold ourselves, once we're conscious and we can see what they're doing, we can hold our power.

18:11 And it is the most liberating thing when you have you know, maybe suffered some form of emotional abuse and you have not had the tools and the language to articulate that well navigate it at all, and then suddenly into the be in this position where you have the power and That is what I love coaching women on because you the transformation is huge, and that is where I believe God's heart is for each one of the women to you know, be able to live out the fullness of our potential because in all shapes and forms and society and relationships at work, home, even you know, you must often encounter it, maybe with racial thing. There's these things going on that we are meant to take charge of. But until you start understanding the consciousness side up. But you know, I just really think it's it's such an effective and powerful way of understanding it, curing it, holding onto your power.

19:21 And once you do that, that is what changes you. That's what changes your outer reality, and that is what changes everyone around you. I have been married for twenty eight years and I nearly went through a divorce three times, which happy now, but I can honestly say, and I've done a lot of inner work on myself. But when I changed myself with this stuff and God speaking into my identity to walk out the fullness of my God given identity with authority, when I allowed him to speak into who I was in him and reveal himself to who I was and him, you know, all the stuff you know, really changed, and I believe that's a journey in a process that most women need to go on to and not be scared about going on, because it's going to liberate them into the fullness of who they created to be. Absolutely. Now, do you think there's anything specific that they can do that would help them to become say, unshakable and stressful and taxic environs environments when they're at work or you know, are at home.

20:36 Yeah, I mean, I think one of the biggest things, and I've come across this with all women's boundaries. Again, this is another thing that is appalling in terms of the education we receive and the conversations we have. So I'm very grateful and thankful to you for raising the awareness on these issues. But you know, again, understanding and articulating boundaries, menting them, enforcing them, maintaining them, understand you know, knowing the language of how to express them when boundaries are crossed. All this stuff is really very very important and and also worth its its weight and goal to get coaching around because you know, it's it is so important in terms of managing toxic environments as well. I think again it's it's it's more about understanding consciousness. It's more about going on this journey of living out your purpose fully understanding your God given up identity and walking that out that with authority, the authority God gives us and wants us to have. Because when we start doing that and living our purpose, the purpose that we're meant to be living, we stop needing the approval of others. Honestly, yea, I could't believe it when it happened to me. I really, and it takes you to a different level where

22:06 you kind of really you don't care about the praises or the criticism of men because you're on your course. It's like as as like a self actualization thing. That is where we all need to get to. So if we can accelerate and help women accelerate to get there, they're going to you know, make the most of their potential from that point, because you know, it's it's It's why I call my coaching company inside out Coaching, Life and Leadership Coaching, because all transformation comes from the inside out. We have to become the people we need to be first in order to attract and steward well the success we want. So that's an identity piece. And our whole society is about you know, the doing, calling the D D D doing all they're doing, all they're doing, but that you know that is not working on your character and identity. That's what's going to move the needle because when that is unshakable, that's when you can build everything else. It's it's the foundation.

23:14 And you know the thing with identity is that I think we could all, no matter what stage of life we're at, we could all benefit from continual coaching on our God given identity because there is a layer upon layer upon layer upon layer, and He's got more for us in every single area of our life. And it's it just goes on opening up. And that's what's so fabulous about it. But absolutely because we don't do this work trying to build on flimsy foundations and we'll get to a certain level of success, But because we haven't worked on our character and our identity to an equal extent, that is when the problems come. But people don't understand that. Wow.

24:03 Now you also mentioned you touched on synergistic relationships. What is the importance of proactively nurturing the right synergistic relationships and creating the right inner circle. Yeah, I mean, this is this is absolutely huge. So I talk about consciousness, and so part of this is also understanding the relationship styles from which you've come. Your parents, for example, So if you've come from a sort of co dependent if your parents have like a codependent relationship, it's likely that you're probably gonna adopt some of those traits and attract a similar sort of relationship.

24:49 But the important thing to notice that we're all capable of evolving when we know these tools, and we can evolve. And you know, so evolving from say a codependent relationship where you are, you know, sucking each other's energy, you're so dependent on each other and you can't make decisions on your own and it's stifling and everything else, to a synergistic relationship, which is one where if you think of yourself and the other person as two circles, you're in no way overlapping each other. You're just touching each other on the borders. And how I like to think about it is that it is they are very empowering relationships. So one is not in any way overshadding shadowing the other person. You are bouncing off each other. So it's like brainstorming, you know, when you sometimes they are in a conversation with a like minded soul. Get this with coaches, and you start talking and you spark off each other and you sparkle the energy, they spark off your energy, and it's it just like combusts into something beautiful, but in no way feel threatened or intimidated by you know, each other's you know, a personality or whatever.

26:04 That is a fully, fully sallergistic relationship. So it's it is difficult for women. And I was in this situation for a lot of a lot of the time. If you are in families and things with people who are negative and who critical, who are energy drainers, who can also feel jealous and threatened by your achievements, by your success, and and then you know you don't have the right support, You don't have people adding to you. The people that are in your life are are not really adding to you, They're just training you. So it is es seem sure to create and strategically and intentionally create the in a circle of the five people you are going to spend your most time with. And this is the journey that sort of God took me on because I couldn't really find the right when I was starting on our business, the right people in my church. And you know, I kept looking and all the group wasn't created, or I'd find a mastermind enough to pay lots of money. I don't want to pay lots of money.

27:12 And then he led me to read Think and Grow Rich, which is a classic novel that most people will have read by Napoleon Hill. And what's fascinating about that is it It documents the lives of ten of the most successful men in history, the likes of Theodore Rusa full Bell, all these people, and the book is about cultivating spiritual abundance in every area of your life, and that includes, you know, creating wealth and having a successful career or whatever whatever they did, which they did do. But this single reason that each of them attributed their success, their greatest success too, was being part of a mastermind. And in that mastermind they were able to pour into each other. And you know, they are others to pour into themselves, and they poured into their communities. So regardless of what you believe, there was very strong spiritual principles at play there that attributed to their success. And that was this being part of a community and pouring your skills into others and letting them pour them theirs into yours, sharing them and also blessing using what you've been given your talents to bless your communities. And as these men did this, they not only became the wealthiest men, but they became the most happiest and fulfilled. So, you know, I thought, this is what I need asways starting up my business. I thought, oh, God's saying, start up your own master mind. I said, I don't know how to I haven't got the skills. I don't know how to do. I'm the

28:44 stretch under the time and the enjine and all the six uses, nor long or and then eat. What popped up on my phone one day was a summary from Audible out to structure and run your own master mind based on think and grow rich. Well, I know when God's talking to me. And that was more than a coast. All right, God, all right, I'll do it. But it's going to have to be really simple, and it's going to have to add value to everybody concern. So I literally went to a networking group and people, this is where I talk about synchronicities, because I wouldn't have believed it before if I hadn't lived it. People in this networking I don't know if I'm Adam. They come to me and start saying, well, they want to join a Mastermind group, and I mean it was just joining and I've now set up this Mastermind group. We meet monthly. It's completely free, women all around the UK and it is just so empowering. We've got a WhatsApp group. We keep everything simple, minimum of slides. We take it in turns to host the meeting. So as I've said, it's it's not I'm not the leader. I'm We're all empowering each other and we go on like that. We run it on the structure, we bring our business issue and the other's brainstorm on it. We've got a wide field expertise and honestly it has taken us all to a different level because a lot of us are We're on our own on this very lonely entrepreneurial journey and God has just done incredible things. We cover each other in prayer and it's just miracle after miracle after miracle. So I tell you that to

30:15 really sort of encourage women, and that's what I gave My testimony in church about as well was you know, if you cannot find the right in a circle, God could be prompting you to start your own and to pay attention to that, because my life and my business and my dreams for my business were largely on hold and it didn't take off until I obeyed that leading and I stepped out and I did something about it. And now I've got the support structure that I need to discuss practical stuff, business stuff. I've also got the spiritual support and covering, you know, which which we all need as well. And it's wonderful and I don't have to, you know, feel frustrated with my family because then they're different to me, and they don't get lit up by coaching or the things that I do, because I've got like minded souls who I can now who energize me and encourage me and hold me accountable. So these are really important principles because also if we're going to develop our highest potential, we have to have accountability, and that's where mastermind and coaching and things like that are very important. So these synergistic relationships of everything, as far as I'm concerned. Now, you also, you know, I noticed that you mentioned God a lot in your conversation, and you

31:48 also talked about the fact that you help empower women to walk out the fullness of who God created them to be any every area of their life. So how do you feel a person can start hearing God for themselves and how do you help them to achieve that? Do you help them too? Yes, yes, yes. So the coaching model that I trained on is sort of I see accredited coaching model with a spiritual edge. So what it does is it facilitates sort of three way conversations between the coach, God and the coaching and these life these encounters are truly life changing. I mean, one of the colleagues that are that was on the training course with me, he happens to be one of the UK's leading mediators and executive coaches and he's been and had his practice for fourteen fifteen years and he just sat with his mouth open throughout the whole training and he just said, this is just coaching on steroids.

32:51 And this is why I don't hide. I include this model a lot, as well as the consciousness work and other but from other models, but this is the thing that moves the needle because you know, I can find that people come in with all sorts of presenting issues saying, oh, this is the mountain. Until I move this mountain, I can't move on with my life. But the reality is that when you when they hear God for themselves and they know they've heard it because they know only God could know the stuff that he's revealing to them, it's literally like a walking on water moment. And what I experience in every converse coaching conversation is, you know, not only they're being transformed before my eyes, but I'm being transformed as a coach. And they when you connect them to how God sees really and they put purpose, none of the other stuff matters anymore, and it could be really major stuff. It is just so fascinating to watch because literally they're just so fired up to get on with, you know, what God wants him to do. They're realized what's important. I'm here to multiply my talents.

34:00 I'll stand alone at the end of my life to give account for how I've multiplied those talents. And yeah, all I've been doing is like the foolish service, burying them away out of fearing and security and instead of you know, investing them wisely and multiplying them. So I need to get on with it now. They're just so excited, and you know that is that is what. Yeah, the whole model really works at a very deep heart level and is superior to anything else I've come across. So that's how I use that model. But I also do through the consciousness work, you know, certain practices to encourage people to sort of tap into their intuition and their imagination because this is again an area where our Western society we've been taught to think in our heads, in our rational brain, and it takes a lot of unraveling because God puts the desires in our hearts, not our hiss. So you know, it's it's a process, and I've got sort of like three step processes that i work with on people to sort of start you know, tapping into and unleashing the power of their intuition. And you know, it's it's not only our strongest sat now in terms of giving directions, but what's so fascinating is when we start developing, you know, hearing our these and

35:32 receiving these intuitive insights and hearing God, you know, it spills out into creativity innovation, marketing strategies, sales strategies. This is what I was doing on my NBA. Honestly, this guy does this stuff all the time, and he just completely wows corporate CEOs because he goes in there with his white board and he gets them to start tapping into their intuition and the things they come up with are just more groundbreaking than all the competition. And he has the guts to go with it and pursue it, and what comes out of that is just incredible. And that that's the cutting edge in everything and every sphere. So if we can learn to do that more, that's what that's that's what's so that's what I help people do through a series of you know, processes and things and writing their vision and tapping into that every day practices that these these men and think can grow rich. They were envisioning they were doing, they understood the science, and the Bible backs up the science.

36:45 So you know, for example, you know when I talk about vibration or states as well, and you talk about sort of how can they create something that they want when they're in toxic environments, Again, it boils back to the science, you know, and consciousness often people are responding to them out of a negative vibrational state anger, frustration, and patience. But we have the responsibility of raising our own vibrational and emotional states. So we cannot create what we want, which is more abundance and love and all those things, from a negative vibrational state and patience, anger, whatever. But yet we all try that, we all do it. And this to me is again, you know, people say they're fairly conscious, but they're not because they go on go on thinking they can create what they want in their life from negative vibrational states. Well, it just doesn't work like that. So we've got to learn to get ourselves back up to those highest vibrational states as quickly as possible and to stay there, which is why we're The Bible comes in and backs up everything that the quantum science teaches us when it says in Philippians fourbo say, you know, dwell on all things that are good and pure and lovely, because when you are dwelling on everything that's good and you're on lovely, you're naturally in that state that's there, and from that position you

38:16 create what you want. But you know, it's it's it's it's obvious on the one hand, but you know when we live in two them all and stress and there's negative stuff going on, it is harder to you know, get back up there and and stay there. But that's where you know, I've got the tools and things to help people raise their consciousness and create what they love and start changing the paradigms which are so wonderful to be part of. Absolutely. Now, another thing I know that you help with is ego warns. What are ego warns? And how can one deal? Are heal those types of wands. Yeah, So when we're growing up, we all, you know, we all have ego wounds and people who say they haven't got any ears, you know, talking rubbish. So when we when our brain is swarming up until sort of about our early twenties, we're in it very much in our in our rational uh you know mind, and quite quite emotional as well sensitive and you know, these life happens, experiences happen to us all. So you know, we we we we've all got things that affect our our ego. Our ego is basically there to keep us safe, so you know, and and and to protect us, which is good.

39:46 When we were in ancient civilizations and we had to run away from from wild animals and all that kind of stuff. But it's it really works against us if we don't understand it, because it keeps us in our comfort zone. So yeah, ego wounds are things like fear, rejection, all the things on the on the on the inniogram, you know, lack of trust, so you know, and and and perhaps a fear of intimacy. So these are the are the woundings that you know, through our experiences and in life as we're growing up, this is what we make up about the world, about ourselves and about others, but it might not necessarily be true true, So we have to unravel all of that and actually heal those wounds. So if if I take an example, like on the iniogram, an ego wound like we've talked about, might be say rejection, or an ego wound might be like fear of intimacy for example, and what what how that's arisen the shadow personality for you know, someone who fears intimacy is often somebody who's a real deep thinker, who who who lives in their heads, who's very logic and rational and what have you, and they want to be intimate with their

41:21 other halves or whatever. They want to have close relationships, but they just that that they can't be they can't be you know, vulnerable. So it's it's it's learning all about the enneagram and in essence and what the what the woundings are and what the cures are for them. Again, overwhelmed was an interesting one when we're all under so much stress, and this is something that I sort of suffered from a lot, and you know that the the the shadow personality that is quite weird. Actually it's it's being overly positive and you often get that with with people who are you know, being overly anything is not good. So this is how I used to be thinking it was a good thing. You know, overly positive. Got a lot of stress and everything else. But that is also because at the heart of it, they don't like pain. They mask it. They mask pain with a delusion or positive outlook. So it's also learning to sort of cure that and and become more comfortable with pain. So yeah, I haven't explained it very well, but when you when you when you when you didn't work on the enneagram, it becomes clear. A great explanation on it, which is you know, when you talked about the different the different types of ego wants, I think when probably when people heard the word ego, they were automatically thought maybe as

42:55 something else, and that with some of the things that you mentioned, which was great. I'm glad that you kind of broke that down for us. We're almost coming to the end. I mean, you've been self fantastic with the information that you shared with us. So tell me quickly, if you could tell me if you have one piece of advice that you would leave with our viewers and our listeners, what would that piece of advice be? Do the inner work on yourself. The dividends are just beyond in terms of accelerating your transformation on every level. Coaching on your identity and your consciousness is going to change the trajectory of your life in every area beyond what you'd ever dream possible. So do that make that investment. I wish I'd done it decades ago. Remember to me, I'd tell you what this has been wonderful having you on the show. If you'd like to tell our viewers and listeners if they want to reach out to you, if you want to tell them how they can connect with you feel free to do so. So that because you've shared some great nuggets. So who knows somebody maney have some additional questions to ask you? Yeah, sure, I mean I'd love to hear from any of you. I am on LinkedIn Barbara fromant Inside Out Life and Leadership,

44:30 so you can DM me on me on there. I don't know if you do you take email addresses or is that yeah? Yeah, so I can. I can put my give you my email address. It's Barbara fromant as you see in my name, no dots between the Barbara fromant at outlook dot com and yes, drop me, drop me an email. I am also doing my first free workshop on lee fifth of October at seventeen thirty UK time, and i'd love you to join join that if possible. I don't know if if you've got the link to that where everybody can register. But that's basically really about you know, living, taking your life, relationships, business and career and living on your term, so dealing with acceleration in all these areas whether you're you know, so that would be if you'd like to hear more about consciousness and all these things that we've discussed on how they can transform your life. I will put a I've got the link here, I think, and if I just pop that into this chat here with that work or do I need to put it somewhere out We can put it up on the screen so it'll run across, so you can go ahead and put it in, and I will go ahead and let them know upcoming events that I have

46:02 coming up. But again, I want to thank you for being on the show. Make sure you do put that link in the chat and yeah, he said to type it there. I want to thank you for being my guests. Barbara from att that's who you have been listening to today on the Successful Women's Show. And while she's putting her link in for her upcoming workshop, I'm gonna let you know some things that's upcoming, some upcoming events that I have. Of course you know about that. You can now pre order your copies of the On It anthology It's Your Life on It Unapologetically and the journal three hundred and sixty five days to transformation. To pre order the paperback book and journal separately will be twenty four ninety nine for each book. To order. The complete set is the book and the journal is forty nine nine nine, And if you want to order your copies, you can go to or email me at info at EXWSI dot com or you can actually go to my website. The direct links are on the website www dot EXWSI dot com.

47:19 And make sure to tune in this month to the Black Business Olympics. Uh. It's going to be held September twenty seven through October three. And as you know, the Black Business Olympics is a fundraiser to provide scholarships and laptops to high school seniors going to college and K through twelve entrepreneurs. The Black Business Olympics showcases black businesses, black business owners and corporations all around the world. And if you'd like to be a speaker on the Black Business Olympics, you can email me at info at EXWSI dot com and make a note on your calendar. They're coming up in uh January. I think it's the twenty fifth through the twenty seventh. If I'm not making uh, I'm guessing right now, but it's I think it's twenty fifth through the twenty seven.

48:15 You will I will be having the show up to Rise Up Women's Summit to find out more about the event or to be a speaker at the event, you can email me at info at EXWSI dot com and that's gonna be January twenty five, twenty fifth through the twenty seven, twenty twenty four so email me if you'd like to be a speaker or find out more information about the show Up to Rise Up Summit. Also coming soon again, US two will be the show Up to Rise Up Women's Network and the mission of the show women's show Up to Rise Up Network will be to empower connect women in their career and businesses, professional and personal lives and we'll be able to help you to gain resources, help you to increase your revenue. Will just a lot of networking, a lot of information and opportunities will be available to you.

49:20 And as always, if you have not listened to my TEDx talk, make sure you do so right now. My talk is at one hundred and eighty five thousand, four hundred twenty three views. I am trying to get it up to a million plus, so make sure you watch it to the very end, make sure you share. I want to thank those who have supported the videos so far because it is still being pushed out there, so I want to thank all my views and listeners for that. And as you know, I'm a contributing writer to own It magazine where I share nuggets and resources every month. The magazine is a resource for personal, professional, and business development. So make sure that you get a copy of that. If you'd like to get a digital copy, email me and I'll send you a link so you can see a sample of the magazine. You can email me at info at ex w SI dot com. And if you want a subscription, you can go on my website for subscription to the magazine, which is www dot EXWSI dot com. So again I would like to thank my guests, Miss Barbara from IT and my viewers and listeners. And I did not mention but Barbara fromatt came to us different time zone. She came to us from the United Kingdom, so I really want to thank her because the time difference there, she's a little later than we are. I believe it's probably around

50:52 seven almost eight o'clock at night there, So definitely want to thank her for joining us today. You've been listening, of course to the Successful Women's Show. I'm doctor Madelanee Lewis, and if you want to reach out to me. Email me at info at ex WSI dot com. Remember I'm on all the social media sites, so you can also DM me on any of the sites. And I want to again thank my guests, Miss Barbara from IT for being on the show, my views, and my listeners for always tuning in and supporting us. And this is the successful women's show. We're here every week and I am your host, Doctor Madelanee lewis helping women to accelerate the path to success. I want to thank you all again for joining me to include my guests who joined us all away from the United Kingdom. I love you all to life as always, be well and stay safe out there.

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