Let's Get Dressed

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2:38 Well, today's topic and I am so excited because she's joining us in the month of March, which is with Women's History Month, So we're gonna be talking today about let's get dressed. And my guess is coming to us from Canada to kind of give us some tips on how to look good all the time. So the topic today, as I said, is let's get dressed, and my guest is Renee Lindo. Let me just give you a little background on her. Renee Lindo is a personal stylist based in Toronto, Canada, serving clients globally so you can still reach out to her no matter where you are. She has been a sense of style and corporate sales background, and she is perfectly positioned to guide professional women on their style journey so that they can show up as the best version of themselves. Renee helps her clients to save time and increase confidence by creating polished and functional wardrobes so that they can attract career building opportunities. Her philosophy is when women look good, they feel great, and this gives them the confidence to put their hands up for more. Renee is passionate about helping women show up as their most authentic selves and believes when your outward appearance is aligned with who you are on the inside,

4:13 that is when you are your most powerful. I'd like to bring to the show today, miss Renee Lindo. Thank you, thank you. Up to Lewis, It's great to be here, great to be here. I'm glad to finally get you here. I mean, you're just so busy all over the place. You talk about looking you got these nice outfits on looking cool and everything. So you tell us how you do it. But before we get started. I always give the standard bio on my guests, but then I like to ask the guests, just tell us what you want us to know about Renee Lindo. Sure you know I am. I'm passionation about helping women to really top into the power of their style. I think it's a it's a hopeful tool that I don't think we really understand and leverage as much as we could. Uh, And it really when we get it right and really understand how to use our style, it really expands what we're available for. And that that really I'm jazzed by that. It is so exciting for me to see women kind of move from where they are to where they want to go using their style and the confidence it gives them to really show up for more. Wow. Now, what is our uh your style story?

5:34 How can we use it? Or everybody's style store? I guess because you work with a lot of women, mostly women? Right, No, not me, it's mostly women, but I do work with men. Yes, what is our style story and how can we use it to advance our careers or our business? Yes? So you know when I when I think of style story, it you know, we all have a story, and how we show up is our style story. How we use our clothing and our style to really communicate and have it do the heavy lifting for us is our style story. And I have actually because I find that when we're able to give a confident, consistent story, right, we're communicating to our audience who we are and what we're about. Actually created a framework that I take clients to that I call your style story. And you, just like any story or movie that you're you're watching, there are a few key elements that really help us to be memorable, helps the story to have a confident story, to be consistent, and it really just aligns with a story. Right.

6:47 You start off with being clear before you write a story or before a movie is made. There's clarity, right, what is this story going to be about? Similarly, with your style, you want to think about, well, who am I? How do I want to move through the world? You know what? What resonates with me? So we start with clarity and then another another aspect of a story is a story happens somewhere, right, there's a scene. And for our style story, I say that's your closet. This is where everything kind of comes to life, right, whether whether you're if you're going to whatever you're going to create that date, it starts in your closet. So we really talk about creating a closet that works for you, a closet that's filled pieces that work for you now that it's not a museum of a life you used to live or a size you used to be, but really what what what suits you now and the lifestyle that you're living, whether it's will work and and and or professional or personal.

7:46 And then every story there is a main character and of course style that main character is you, right, so we really get we get clear on how how do you address our body? You know, as we age, I'm mature, our body is change and what if it doesn't fit or it fits differently? So we really get clear on your body shape and how to dress this body shape? What, what flatters? What? What? How we bring attention to areas that we like and maybe not and not so attention to aras that we don't like. And then we go on to the wardrobe. You think of a movie, right, so you can tell so much about the characters in a movie by their wardrobe. Excuse me, similarly with you.

8:28 So we spend time really in your in your plaster with your wardrobe, creating outfits that are easy for you, that easily you can easily put together, whether it's professional, whether it's personal, to really tell your story, to communicate whatever it is that you want. And it's really about building a wardrobe that's functional, right, that you can mix and and create great pieces and great outfits so you feel good. And then the last of your story is the supporting cast. Every story movie there's a supporting cast. If it was us about you, that maybe a little bit boring, so, but the supporting cast for your style. You know, we talk about color, the colors that look great on you. We talk about your accessories and how to use your accessories to allow your personality to come through to you know, to tell, to allow people to know you a little bit more. And so when we put all of those elements together, it really helps us to feel confident, helps us still have that, you know, just to be able to communicate who we are and how we want to show up. And so using that whether progressing yourself and your career, whether you're the face of your business, that's a huge tool. Wow, to be able to get it right now. I gotta ask this question because friend of mine, we're always going back and forth over this one here. How much should we pay attention to the trends when we're dressing? I mean, I mean, because

10:01 you know, things change, and if you look at the trends, some of that stuff was way back when and it's just repurposing coming back today. And so you know, I'm one of these people that I don't go out every time something changes. I don't go out and you know, get that particular follow that trend. But how important is it or is it important to follow trends? This is such a great question, and I'm so glad you asked, because first of all, there's a there's a few differences between trendy and trends, right, So trends just kind of tell the this is what the designers kind of tell us, this is what they're they want us to wear or we're seeing. We see a lot of it. It's we're easy easy to get these pieces in store because they are what's the latest thing.

10:48 When you're a trendy, it just it means that you're constantly buying these trend pieces, right, which is not sustainable, and you don't build a great functional wardrobe just chasing the trends. Constantly chase your trends. First of all, that's very expensive, and then you're not allowing your you to really show up and say who you are. What is important when I when I work with plans and we're talking about your wardrobe, a great functional wardrobe really is about eighty percent i'd say basics, right, your wardrobe basics the pieces that and basics don't mean boring, but basics with big pieces that you reach for all the time, these pieces that you know you make your great outfits with, that you love to wear, that look great on your body. And about twenty percent are trend pieces, pieces that you say, hmm, you know that's interesting, I'm going to try that, but you're not. Your entire wardrobe is not filled with trends because you're constantly doing this and you don't want that. So you want to create a wardrobe that's i'd say bounce.

11:50 If you think of a meal, right with your With a meal, you have your proteins, you have your carbs. The dessert is just a little, a little sprinkling, right, So similar thing to think about. So, but I need to say this as well, especially for folks who are in the job market. If you're going getting back into the job market. Now, if you're a maybe a I like to say, an experience rich employee, I'm retired too. Okay, you have to work out working or anything like that. You don't have to, right, but especially if you're in the job market and you're looking for a job or we're hearing so much of that is happening, you want to look current. That's the thing.

12:37 You're not necessarily trendy, but the important piece is that you're looking current because again, you're communicating something you're always communicating by just how you show up. Wow. Now, okay, give me an example of what you mean by current. What would what would you say would be an example today? Okay? Absolutely? So you know before so before pandemic, we usually or not usually, but let's just say, a more formal suit, maybe more fitted, more kind of more structured, was more or less what people were to work. That's what was deemed professional. Okay. Now you know that styles have changed, office cultures have changed. We're dressing much more more relaxed, but we're still we still want to look professional and appropriate for work. So looking current could mean and I know in certain clients I've worked with, they may think that, okay, professional only means I have to wear a suit, so they get so they're wearing their full fitted suit formal to work.

13:48 That can lookated because that's not what we're doing. Now, you can still look professional. The blazer is going to be a little bit more relaxed, it's not going to be as fitted and tied, even though overall silow way is going to be a little bit looser. So just things like that to not hold on to Okay, this is what professional was, and then you continue that for years and years. Things change, styles change, and you want to look current because what I say is on LinkedIn all the time. If you show up dated or if you show up looking like you're a little behind the times, people assume that your skills are also dated, right, because they can't because people are judging us always right. We're always being judged.

14:30 Split second, people are judging, So you want to ensure that you look current because then you're communicating that I have my finger on the pulse, I know what's happening in my industry. I I'm not stucking my ways. That's another thing that they want folks stuck in their ways. Employers are looking for people who are adaptable, people who are open to change, growth mindsets. So all of those things are important and you can communicate that with your staff. Wow. Now when you say, uh, stuck in your ways, because I guess I tend to be that way, are you meaning that? Are you meaning that I don't want to change? Say, for example, if I like pin Strive suits, then I'm just not gonna wear anything but pins Strive suits. No, I'm talking about stuck in your ways when it comes to work. So if you know, right, so they want they employers really want you to not not to be not be the person who says, this is how we've always done it, so this is how it's going to be. Right. They want you to be open minded, growth mindset. Right, So those things are are important. Okay, So just so what I'm saying the point I'm making if you're you're showing up in this very very formal suit I used to wear, it doesn't show that you're open to change. It shows that this is what was professional. And I'm sicking to it and I'm always going to wear that. You understand what I'm saying.

15:56 So that's that's really what we're communicating. We communicate all the time with holy show up. Wow. Now one of the things I did years and years ago, and I don't know, maybe I should revisit that because you mentioned about colors, I went and had a color assessment. Of course I got on the color today that was not in that palette. But because I'm supposed to be a winter and you know, winter is like the blues and the pretty pinks and different colors like that. And how important is that you know your colors? Because I actually do love blues. I love pinks and gray, and believe it or not, one of the things the lady did, I remember, she showed me like she put on a color like she would she put on I think it was like, I don't know, like a beige color. She put it next to me, and then she took that away and she put like a white And you would be surprised is how much you light up just from the colors, you know? I was.

17:07 Does that change as you age? You know your colors? Uh? Should in other words, should I go get another reassessment of if I'm still a winter person or not, or that really doesn't change. I don't. I don't think you're that really changes you are. Looking at you, I would say that you are a winter I mean you can't always look and tell, right, it's really important to do the dripping. But those similar those colors look great on you, right, those those deep the deep greens, like kind of vibrant colors. Right. Purples, yea, the purples, the reds, they the very vibrant colors. But yeah, as you age, not really and maybe maybe you may want to maybe tone it down, but usually your your colors are more or less the same. Wow. Wow.

17:57 And as I said, I I see you all the time when you're posting things and different outfits that you have on, and sometimes you look so well put together. But it's not like you're dressed like you're going to an opera something, but you're still you still look like you're well put together. And I've seen you where you just sit on a pair of jeans and a top and a jacket and I'm looking, I'm like, that really looks pulled together, you know. And I'm just yesterday where you mentioned that you didn't used to like jeans, but now yes, jeans, and I'm the same way.

18:40 I didn't used to be a jeans person, and I'm really still not. That's not my first to outfit or gens. But when I read what you were saying, it made sense, you know, because jeans have changed, you know, so much since, like I said, things changed and they repurpose and all of that exactly exactly. But that's so true, you know. And that's another point, right, As we age and mature and as we grow, we change as women, men, professionals, whomever, humans. We change, and it's important that our style also changes with change with us because you don't want to be you don't want to be stuck, right, and you feel like you're stuck in our root. So you want to change and evolve, just as as your style does. And you know, you may have thought you were fabulous ten years ago, but you can still be fabulous now. It's just maybe it just may look different. Right.

19:33 So that's also my point is that we don't have to feel like, oh that the ship has passed. We're on that state, we're on that ship and it can still be like Grainny, just because you are a grand boy, I thought the words absolutely, no way right, And I don't believe in that you know a certain age, so I can't wear a certain thing and stylis for certain absolutely not. Style is available at all ages, all sizes. It is really about how you interpret the styles. Is how you think? How you are comfortable? How? What? What are you comfortable? Yes? Yes? How are you comfortable wearing? What's going to be? Because when you're sorry, when you're comfortable, you'll be able to be confident. Right, you're not fixing it fidgeting, You're not wondering how does this look? Do I look? Does my boat look too big?

20:23 Does this? You know you're comfortable, and so that allows you to show up. That allows you to really focus on your gifts and talents and how you're going to serve and help others. But it's about being comfortable. And you had mentioned the point about how I look pulled together. I appreciate that, so I thank you. And another piece that I think is important it's intentionality. Right, Be intentional about the message that you're going to send when you get dressed. Right, Sometimes I say, let's not think about what am I going to wear today? But instantly, what do I want to say? Today. Right, what is it? What is the message that I'm sending about me? What do I want folks to know about me?

21:03 Right? So think about that and then get dressed with some intention. You have some intention, not just don't just think of your clothes, I'm just going to throw something on. I think of be more intentional, and then you'll find that when you create an output, when you create a wardrobe that really supports how you live and supports the message that you want to send to the world, it makes it so much easier for you to put an outfit together. Right, You're not rummaging through and trying to find something because you have all these things that no longer serve your lifestyle. As an example, I came from corporate. My background is corporate. So when I move up to a move transition to being an entrepreneur, I still held on to all of my corporate suits. I had all these fabulous suits in my closet.

21:48 Right, had all these suits because oh, I spent money on the suits, and I may want to wear the suits after maybe the suits and then so every time I was getting dressed in the morning, when I walk into my closet, it's a huge thing. Of suits, and then I had a small section of what I would be wearing that day. So really, your my closet wasn't serving me. My closet, not the life I was living. So I was in courage clients to think about how are you living? You think about your lifestyle, so these suits. And then the other thing I thought about is, but you know, I may need to wear suits again, and if I go into corporate clients as a as a stylist, I may want to wear my suits. But the important thing is, yes, I may want to wear a suit, but those that style of suit is three years, four years old, right, I'm not going to want to wear that suit. I'm going to want to hear something new, something fresh, right. So I really went through this process and really just got rid of those suits because I wasn't wearing head to toe suits and I didn't miss and I didn't miss them. That was the other thing, The same thing. After a few years after I retired, I did the exact same thing, because, like you said, every time I went into the closet, I had a cloent that was just filled with all these suits.

23:06 And so one time, one day I just called this lady up. She does the program Dress for Success. I called, I said, look, I have these suits, and she was blown away because she didn't know she was gonna be get suits. I tell you, I cleaned that closet out and like, I gave away those suits because they were just sitting there and taste the money picking up space exactly. Think about the fact that you haven't touched something in years, then you probably that you're going to write and then sometimes we said, oh, but I spent so much money on them. But it's okay for you to gift items that you spent money. And you don't have to only give away items that have no value. Right you can gift others and I mean they'll give them new love brings you new life and opportunities to these to these women. So yes, that's my soap box.

23:59 Now I have a question that I have to ask you, because this is another question that I have done battle with with someone that I know. We've gone back and forth on this. Stockings. What do you think about women wearing stockings now? Because you know, most of the time you see ladies, don't you know, they're not really into wearing stockings anymore? Tell me what your thoughts on on that. Okay, stockings, and this may not be popular opinion, but I have not worn stockings in years, unless it's unless it's winter, like winter title. But I think you're asking me more like stockings, like if you're going to the office, that's what you're you're going to the office, or if you're you know, dressed in a nice dress. You know, like if you're going on to a nice dinner, a nice function, uh play or something where you're dressed in a nice then yes, I could wear a stocking, but like every day going to work, stock hold panty holes. Mm hmmm mmm mmmm. I think that's a personal preference. I don't. I think some people like to wear their stockings.

25:15 So but it's just it's a lot of work, you know, unless it's unless it's like tights, like you know, I do, like, you know, if you were like black, shared tights with with maybe boots, boots and a dress or a shark skirt or a miniskirt. I like that. But when I'm thinking of it, stockings just like in your every day work. Yeah, no, it's been a while. Yeah, I don't think I haven't. Any of my clients have done stockings just maybe just maybe tights in fall and winter? Okay, yeah, definitely. Now I gotta tell you, I like when I get you know, put on a nice dress or whatever. I do like to have on stock and high definitely in the winter time. I Am not going to go with the time, right, I mean, if you're getting dress, nice dress, black, you know, dress heels and it's a fancy function, then yes, I think for sure, you know, like a thin what do you call it?

26:17 I don't remember the words? Not okay, but share share black tights? Yes, absolutely right. So what do you mean when you talk about style is a tool? Ah? Yes, so you know, I see it as a tool to be able to take us from where we are to where we want to go, whether we if it's you know, if you set your career goals, career aspissions or style is a piece of that entire puzzle. Yes, your resume is important. Yes, it's important to the networking. It's important to have the cover letter to get further accreditations. But I think people also people miss overlook their style being a part of their career success toolkit. Right because I talk about about your personal brand, your style is a packaging of your personal brand. Right, it's the first thing that people see. So it's a tool to help you. It's a tool for sure, for communication, right, it is you can say who you are without speaking. People make assessments of us in no time, in a few seconds, right, they start to make judgments and assessments. So your style is a tool that for communication, and it's also a tool to help you to position yourself for different opportunities. Now, you mentioned a personal brand and

27:48 as a relationship, what do you think the relationship between those two are our personal brand and our style? Because I think one of the things that I think women don't realize is that, especially when they're in the workplace in career, they do have a personal brand and whether they know it or not, they there is a personal brand there. So what do you think that relationship is between the two, the personal brand and the style. So personally, a lot of people don't even think they have a personal brand. They say, oh, I'm just stun employee, I don't have I'm telling anything. I don't have a personal brand. I mean, and sometimes people get reputation and personal brand confused. When you have when you think of your personal brand, it's really about intention, right, and having intentionality behind your brand, so intentionally in terms of really intentionally, how you influence somebody to think something, think a certain thing about you. Right, that's your personal brand, So it encompasses it's a feeling, the feeling that people get when they work with you, when they interact with you. It is you know, your skills and what you're known for. All of this is a part of your personal brand. And I have and as I mentioned previously, your style really is the packaging of your brand because it's the first thing that people see.

29:07 So people say, I get pushback. Sometimes people say, well, that's you know, that's that is very superficial. It shouldn't matter about what I'm wearing because I'm a great employee. I am. I'm a great I can close deals or whatever it is that you're good at. Get that, I'll get that pushback. And so my answer is, and you know that may be so true, but before I know what a fantastic fill in the blank you are, I see you. Right, So that's the first thing. And sometimes we're not even we don't even know what opportunities we have missed because I didn't even think to offer it, just because they just didn't there was a disconnect. And so in terms of your style and your brand, it's really important that your style aligns with your personal brand and it aligns with the message that you want to send about you. We spend all the time creating, you know, your assets, You spend all the time getting your resume up. You spend all this time getting further accreditation, networking, getting sponsors and mentors with throughout your career. Also, you need to you want to include that piece that that that statues, because what happens is when you you put your assets out there and people read about you or they see are they they're seeing all or hearing all that? And then when you show up, if there is a disconnect right between what what you're putting out there and what

30:37 they expect, there's people are like, hmm, there's like a trust issue. People like, am I if I invest in this person, whether it's invest to do business, invest to hire, invest in promotion, what am I getting? Am I getting all of the things that they talk about or their assets or what people tell me? Or am I getting what I see in front of me? Right? And the confused mind don't buy confused minds, They just step on. No, they don't, right, they don't want so you want to be clear, which is why I say that your your image and what you're saying, you really need to have a consistent, confident story, right that that line that threat that runs through all of your touch points, whether it's your it's how you look, it's your your what you're doing on socials, it is your resumes, your all of that.

31:30 It needs to be cohesive. It needs to really it needs to be aligned. Wow, it's it's amazing that. Like you said, now, one of the things you always hear too is especially in the career in the workplace is dressed for the position that you'd like to attain. You know, sort of like if you if you feel like you want to get into management or executive position, then you should look kind of look the part before you even have the position. What do you think about that? Do you agree with that? I agree with that. I agree with that. What's challenging now is that because our dress codes are relaxed and because you know, people aren't really dressing as they used to. Sometimes there is it's great, right because sometimes you'll have the levels up SDPs or the leadership team and they're very casual, especially depending on your industry. So what I tell what I tell plans is yes, use the next step as a as a guide, right, look at it and see take some clues from what the next level is wearing.

32:44 However, you if it's a very casual organization, like when I work with people who are in sports and entertainment, right, that that tends much more laid back. You can't take necessarily or they'll tell me, Yeah, but I don't like how my boss dresses. I don't think she dresses whatever it is, you know, however, I don't like that. So it is a great opportunity for you as a person as you're looking forward, for you to for you to create your story, for you to take, for you to own the narrative, for you to say, you know what, I'm positioning myself with this level. This is this is a message I want to send about me. So I'm going to dress this way. I am going to present myself in a way that when people see me when we're in the office, when whatever it is they're going to I'm going to own the story that they're going to tell about me. Right, So, yes, take your clues from higher up. But I can be difficult depending on your industry. However, use it as a time to really define your brand, your personal brand. I know some people just have they have this is my this is my standard. I'm not going even though the office is casual, I'm not going to wear a jeans to work. That's not a part of who I am. So we empowered to know that you can, you know you you can still be authentic and show up authentically. It's really a balance, a balance of what is the employee employer expectations of employees, balancing how you feel most comfortable so that and then also what your audience expects so that

34:19 it's it's a great balance. Absolutely. I remember when I was still working and I was actually working in an area where I actually did surveillance for the organization I was working for, and most of the people on the team said they wore jeans, T shirts and stuff like that. But because I wasn't that into jeans, I always wore casual slacks and the time, you know, so I didn't do the gene. I didn't go that much down but obviously you know enough. But the thing that happened was it was amazing because what happened is that they started because I wasn't in the jeans of time whenever they had to go into a restaurant or something to follow someone into a restaurant, that they started sending me because I look like I fit in a little more than the ones that may have had on the genes. And so eventually they start they change the rule to tell them the genes they every day and that is it too write when you hold your standard, Yeah, come up to meet you, right, And so it's really important, you know, especially now since we have there's so much blurring off what business casual is and it already depends on your organization and industry, the culture of the industry.

35:44 You know, clients, my clients who are more formal industry, banking, law, finance, they're gonna wear their business casual is going to be very different from clients who are more marketing or social media marketing or digital marketing. Right, they'll tend to be. And even that it's a generalization, which not necessarily is true, because I have female lawyer clients and they all dressed differently depending on the type of law that they have, they they they practice. Yeah, they all dressed differently. And also it has to do with how they're comfortable, So we really have to look at But what's important. The point I want to make is that the culture of your industry and your company culture is important and those will dictate kind of what is appropriate dress for your situation. And another thing to remember too, is it again if you're going for a higher level position. Because I also remember when we did have the dressed down Fridays when you can you know, like where the genes and all it is, and that particular time, one time I did wear a pair of jeans and wouldn't you know, I got called in because I was also a EEO representative. I got called in to upper manage and to give them a briefing on the EEO stats. How do you go into So that's too. That then another reason why I never wore the jeans to work.

37:13 I always made sure if I did dress down casual, I also had a nice jacket or whatever I could throw on to pull it together. Because that's that's something that also happened to me. And you don't want things like that to happen to you, especially you're like said, your your your brand, your personal bring your image, because if I had walked in there with those jeans on, It's like, look, you know they would have they would have noticed that I had on those genes for sure. And you know that's a good point because when I work with I worked with a client who was in tech, big big tech company, and so you know, we know we've also that tech is casual. Gan you know, jeans and T shirt.

38:00 She said, I'm tech, but I don't want to show up that way, right, that is not who I am. I So we spent time unreally created a wardrobe, not that was full of suits, but a wardrobe that you know, could still it was still casual, but it wasn't still polished, not jeans, but items that she felt put together. She felt, she felt confident in right, and definitely much more than jeans and T shirt. And I saw an article recently in the Wall Street Journal that spoke to this. It was a man in tech. I think it was maybe a Google employee, I don't remember, in tech, and he noticed that he usually wore like a graphic tea and jeans. And he noticed in a meeting somebody another man came in not in her jeans and T shirt, but more put together and he noticed how that man commanded the room, how people were respond to him, and he changed what he was wearing because he saw the difference it made on people. How people So it's it's important people say, well, you know, you talk about authentic self, and my authentic self is just sweat hoo do I don't I don't know if I agree with that. You can be comfortable and polished at the same time. They're not mutually exclusive, and comfort is not only a hoodie and sweats. It can be, but there's retailers have done a great job now of really providing

39:31 pieces that are comfortable that if you stretch, you can move in that still looks great for if you have an office environment where they really want it more than you know you want to show a little bit a little more elevated. Wow. So one of the things I'm hearing, because you spoke about this before, that your style is a part of sort of a success too for you. You got to make sure that you know your your style can help you actually not only change things sometimes, but move up because people will notice you because you already you know, made your own style. So to spread yes, and our style and colors, you know it can change our mood.

40:15 Data tells us as well that if we're feeling when we're feeling sad and down, we reach for clothes that's big and bulky and gray and really dark colors that really keeps you down. And so the reverse is also to that when you're and then when we're feeling happy and excited, and we were bright vibrant colors. This whole thing soon after the pandemic that was called dopamine dressing, where you wear bright, lively colors and you just feel bright and lively and vibrant. So when you're feeling down right, think about maybe just changing, okay, reaching for pieces in your closet that have more colors, that colors that make you feel great, that you feel happy, that you feel uplifted, and as opposed to wearing more dark and subdued tones. Wow.

41:05 So as you talk about the pandemic and and you know how people dress before then and how they're doing now, what would be your advice or guidance for our viewers to show up well for themselves now at this point? Yes, I think the first thing is to really get clear on who you are, get clear on how you want to move through the world. What do you what message do you want to set to send about you? How do you want your audience to receive you? I think that's really important, Right do you want are you are you going to be giving a big presentation? Are you showing up on zoom? And you have to lead? So what are you going to wear that gives you some more confidence that you're going to feel great in? Do you? Do you have a new are you going to be leading a new team where you want to feel approachable? Right? Where you don't want to be in a If that's the case, you don't want to wear a very formal black suit because that gives a separation, right in terms of I'm here, you're there, right, So you want to maybe wear brownze and some kind of warm colors that so that people so that people feel approachable, that you're approachable, you know, if you're in banking or insurance, right than our private banking insurance sort of that, and you're working with clients and you really want to build some trust, right, think about you know, maybe some colors, some green, some blues. There's this whole thing on color psychology and not undergotting that, but you really want to be intentional about the message that you're sending about you, about who you are.

42:38 So I think that's the first thing is to really get clear, you know, be comfortable, create a wardrobe that speaks to your life and how you live, and create piece, create invest in pieces that you could that can you can easily mix and match and create different outfits with. And you know, style should be fun and something that you can lean on to give you strength, to give you courage for it to be fun. So, you know those are my main things. Wow, So tell us what next? What do you have coming up? Anything on the horizon that you want us to know about? What do I have coming up? Well, it's it's spring, so you know it's a great time for folks to really think about how are they showing up, you know, peeling back the layers of fall and winter and thinking about, you know, how do I want to show up? No, I think it's a great time to relate, kind of reassess the message that we're sending, reassessed the closing our closet. Are you holding onto pieces that don't fit? Are you holding on too and saying I'm going to lose these ten pounds that you've been trying that you've been saying for the past five years is you're maybe nine years old, right, So those are things to really to think about. And so in terms of me, right, you know, maybe you want to just have a call and talk about you know, see what does it look like if I'm investing in me and really updating my style. So I think that's something that I'm excited about. Springs a busy time for people in general to say, hey,

44:10 I'm ready to show up better for myself. Absolutely absolutely, So tell us how can the viewers and listeners reach out to you if they want to find out more about you know, their style and what they can do how they can show up better? Well? Absolutely well, I have a a dressing your body shape that which I think is a foundation of really looking having your clothes fit well and if you can't in your clothes and it's at bigly front slash dressing, best you can get there or I'm on LinkedIn Rene Lindo and my website is Let's get Dressed Now. But yes, I'd love to talk about this topic. I'm passionate about it. So if you have any questions, reach out to me for sure, and my free guide is awesome.

45:00 It goes through other different body shaps and explains kind of what to wear and hope to wear it, wear it alrighty, well, thank you so much. You appreciate you coming on and giving us those tidbits on dressing and style and our image and all of that. Really appreciate you. I know your schedule is busy, so I do appreciate you taking time out to come and talk to us. Thank you so much for having me, Doctor Lister. Conversation was great, so thank you for the invitation. Absolutely so. Now I'm just going to give everybody a little bit of what's coming up next. And as you know, the Black Business Olympics will be coming up this month the twenty fifth through the thirty first, and the Black Business Olympics is a fundraiser to provide scholarships and laptops to high school seniors going to college and K through twelve entrepreneurs. The Black Business Olympics showcases black businesses, black business owners and corporations all around the world. And if you'd like to be a speaker to showcase your business on the platform, then you can email me at info at EXWSI dot com. Also, remember that the show Up to Rise Up Virtual Summit is going to be scheduled again September twenty sixth through the twenty eight and if you're interested in being a speaker for the Show Up to Rise Up Virtual Summit, then also email me, or you can go to www dot

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