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Well. Today's topic is one Day at

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a Time and my guest is Ayanna
E. Jackson. Let me just give

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you a little bit of background on
miss Jackson. Ayanna E. Jackson is

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a leading human resource professional and career
coach located in the metropolitan Washington, DC

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area. She is the founder of
AEJ Consulting, LLC, which she started

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in twenty nineteen. Prior to coaching
and training full time. Allanna is accomplished

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in human resources career spanning twenty two
years across several five Fortune five hundred companies

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including General Electric, Starbucks, Coffee
at Company, and Harris Corporation. She

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was the head of Learning and Development
at National Public Radio in Washington, DC,

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which is one of America's most well
known public media news sources. I'd

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like to present to you today my
guest, Miss Ayanna E. Jackson.

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Hi, welcome to the show.
It is bir I'm absolutely delighted to be

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here. Thank you so much.
Well, thank you for taking time out

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of your busy schedule to so let's
get started. I always give my audience

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the standard bio on like then,
I like to ask the guests to just

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tell us what you want us to
know about Ayanna Chex Oh my goodness.

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Okay, we'll look at first and
foremost, Doctor Lewis, thank you so

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much for the invitation. I was
absolutely flattered when you reached out. I'm

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always happy to help in these situations
and have these conversations, particularly about women

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and leadership. It's incredibly important.
So just thank you tremendously for inviting me

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on today, and I hope the
guest and everyone just get a lot out

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of the conversation today. So for
me personally, I'm originally from Detroit,

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Michigan. I'm very proud of that. I attended Clark Atlanta University. I

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got my bachelor's in Business administration Marketing. Then I got a couple of years

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in work experience as an HR assistant. I kind of fell into HR by

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accident. I got a temp job
doing that. Really just enjoyed the type

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of work, and I went back
to Michigan, went to Michigan State University

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and got my masters in Labor relations
and human Resources. So I've literally been

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working in you know, in the
HR field in various industries since about nineteen

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ninety nine. And that's a little
bit about me. I guess we can

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get into, you know, my
further background, entrepreneurial efforts and all of

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that. Actually for you to give
us a little bit about your background and

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yeah, actually what led you to
start your own business, which is the

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EJ Consulting LLC. Yeah, so, you know, I have been an

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HR since around nineteen ninety nine,
two thousand and After about eighteen years,

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I really just got kind of burned
out, like most of us, do,

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right know, just the day to
day task, the business cycle,

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some promotions, some not, you
know, constant problems needing to be solved.

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And when the pandemic hit, of
course for many of us, that's

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what really gonna push me over the
edge. I ended up working two different

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jobs for about a year and a
half and that was really my push to

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make a change. And so a
couple of years prior to the pandemic,

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I actually started aeg AEJ consulting and
about two or three years prior to that

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is when I really kind of figured
out career coaching is what gave me joy,

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right It was it was my sweet
spot and I felt like I had

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enough expertise in that area to really
kind of move forward and do my own

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thing. And so it was very
planned out, you know, I just

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didn't wake up one day and say, hey, I'm gonna quit and you

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know, start my own thing.
But it was also too when I became

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certified as a discacilitator. I saw
that impact for me personally immediately, but

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I also saw it for others and
I knew unequivocally that that was something that

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I really wanted to help people to
do. And so while I was still

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working full time, I really kind
of knocked out the administrative pieces of the

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business, right, So you know, I set up a website and you

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know, order business cards and got
my LLC documentation and you know, started

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the social media and all of that. And so I started to take on

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clients one at a time, you
know, in the evenings, secretly,

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during some lunch breaks, sometimes at
work. And I just found that it

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was really helpful to do all that
administrative you know, those administrative pieces up

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front, you know, over time. So when I did leave my corporate

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job in September of twenty twenty two, I was able to hit the ground

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running and really start focusing on those
revenue generating activities and not solely you know,

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the operating things to get set up. So it's been an interesting journey.

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Wow, that is interesting. So
tell us what was the hardest part

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about leaving time career and striking out
on your own as an entrepreneur. Yeah,

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you know what, if I had
to attribute it to anything, it

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was just good old fashioned fear.
That was the hardest part. Right,

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It's just where our own worst critics, right. I didn't announce anything,

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I didn't put anything on LinkedIn or
Facebook. I just went out and started

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doing the work or just really kind
of continuing the work you know that I

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that I wanted to do. And
the reason that I didn't announce it is,

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you know, I had so many
career connections and friends in different industries

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and in the human resources space.
You know, I was honestly just fearful

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of their judgment, right, And
not to say that I thought everybody's gonna

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call me and tell me I was
terrible, But you know, I honestly

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didn't want to be seen as a
failure, particularly because I didn't make it

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to the chief HR officer role.
Now I knew in my spirit that's not

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even a role I want, right, And it's not because I couldn't do

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it. It was just literally because
that's not the type of work I wanted

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to do. That's not what gave
me joy. It didn't excite me,

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right, But we as human beings, particularly women, you know, we

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could fall prey to what the pressures
of society and where we should be in

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our career, especially after you know, so many years of experience, so

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you know, moving into entrepreneurship,
it was it was I was scared.

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I was nervous and another big part
of that was growing up. For years,

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I never believed I could be an
entrepreneur. I didn't think that was

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something for me. As I mentioned, I'm from Detroit. I grew up

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in Detroit, and everybody there worked, right, They worked in a company

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in an office for you know,
big university or one of the big three

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auto manufacturers, and you know at
the time that was four GM and Chrysler

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and so. And people were successful, right, They bought homes, they

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put their kids through college, you
know, they retired, so it was

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a feasible plan. But no one
that I grew up around had their own

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business, right. Everybody had to
work for somebody else, and one certainly

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didn't leave a job to go start
their own job, right, right.

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It just you know, it just
wasn't modeled, you know, it wasn't

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shown to me. And so I
really bought into and just kind of believe

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that narrative that I couldn't be an
entrepreneur. It wasn't something for me.

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So really overcoming that programming from when
I was younger and being used to what

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was modeled and just fear that was
the hardest part. And once I got

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over some of those things, that's
you know, when I really started to

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flourish. I think as an entrepreneur, Wow, that is awesome because you

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know, there are a lot of
people's like you say, and especially women

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who would have that fear, would
have just gripped them to the princilal way

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not have stepped out there that and
gone into entrepreneurship. Yeah, yeah,

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to you for thank you. I
encouraged me. I want to I want

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to encourage others. So yeah,
absolutely, And then we too, we

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think everything has to be perfect.
We have to have the perfect website and

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the perfect business card and the perfect
social media. Straight just do it.

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Just start off there. You know
you will come just like they just do

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it. So what's the biggest what
has been the biggest lesson you've learned in

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your full time career that now when
you were in your full time career that

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now plays a big part in you
being an entrepreneur. What do you think?

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Um, I would probably say I
think the number one thing is consistency

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and having a routine and how I
work. Okay, right, And I

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figured that out because if I can
get up every morning for twenty plus years

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and get drussed and be somewhere and
you know, on time, and and

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then later have a kid and get
my kid dress, you know, and

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be somewhere on time, and being
in an office for eight nine, ten

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hours and write and respond and connect
and solve problems. If I can do

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that all consistently, I can unequivocally
do that for myself, absolutely right.

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And so it's that consistency that you
take from being in that environment for so

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long that you just apply to yourself. And you know, the good thing

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about it, looking back on it
is, you know, I really did

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have a good work ethic. If
you don't have that, you are going

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to struggle as an entrepreneur. You
absolutely have to get up and do it

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every day, right, And I
still get up, you know, I

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still get up not as early,
but you know every morning at the desk,

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already exercised, eight, showered,
ready, and I just really approach

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my days as an entrepreneur the same
way that I did when I was working

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for somebody, Like you said,
that's what you have to do, I

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mean, because if you don't take
as serious for yourself, I mean you

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were serious when you were doing it
for someone else, exactly serious. So

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you know now it's it's you.
So you really want to knock that ball

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out of the park. Absolutely absolutely. Why do you add in that consistency?

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You create new routines, right,
So for me, because now I

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have to come to this space every
day and figure out for me how I'm

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going to succeed. I've got nood
routines, right, So I have marketing

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Mondays and every Monday, I'm sitting
down. How do I market my business?

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What do my socials look like?
I also have money Mondays? What's

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my money doing? What am I
investing in? What bills? You know

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do I have that I need to
pay? What's coming up Wednesdays? Is

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writing Wednesdays? I love to write. So I have a blog. I

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made sure I try to get something
out every Wednesday, or it's website Wednesdays.

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I'm updating my website. I'm gonna
add an events tale like we talked

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about. And so just having those
routines it's super helpful. And then the

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best part, you know, like
any entrepreneur, entrepreneurial tell you you've got

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more time for family. You know. Now I can take my daughter to

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lunch. Now I can go on
a motorcycle ride with my husband. Now

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I can take the kids to the
pool in the middle of the day.

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You know. So when you have
those routines and you know what you're gonna

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do, that's what sets you offer
success to really have that work life balance

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that I think we really all are
searching for, exactly, Like I a

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friend of mine, she has her
own business, and one of the things

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she used to always says, she
says, when the government shut down,

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I shut down to she did she
quiet quit what she quiet? Quitting the

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same holidays as the federal government.
Right, yeah, I believe it all

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the time, you know that when
she used to say that. But it's

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like you said, it's how she
set her routine, right right, That's

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part of her routine to do it
like that, And so it also gave

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her a bit of a break,
you know. I mean, yeah,

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just think all of different months that
the government is closed unfortunately furloughs, but

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yes, well no, not with
the little pop but with the actual legal

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holidays, you know. Yeah,
yeah, definitely definitely that I used to

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think. At first I laughed at
it, but then I thought, hey,

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you know, it's that's not a
bad idea. It's it's you want

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to structure your particular organization, your
business. How you want to struct absolutely,

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hey, is to keep the consistency
and that wow. So what's the

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biggest area of opportunity you see for
most of your career coaching clients that they

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may need to prove upon. Yeah, and you know what, that's such

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an easy answer because I've been doing
resumes for so long. I see it

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pretty consistently every almost every single time. It's what I go in looking for

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and I usually always find it.
People list what they do on a day

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to day basis instead of what they've
accomplished and achieved. Yeah, that is

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the biggest differentiator that I see on
every single resume, right, And it's

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such a huge miss and our abilities
to showcase our talent, you know,

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our resumes, our marketing documents,
and it's literally what I coach on the

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most. It's honestly, you know, just improving that document about you.

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And I think the reason that it
happens. And I've talked and interviewed enough

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people to know. You know,
people tend in their day to day at

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their job and I'm guilty of this
too, right, but in their day

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to day at their job, they're
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to do list right, And very
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tie back what they're doing to organizational
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goal what is the key thing that
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this is applicable no matter what type
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all types of people over the years. Right, So whether you're sudden clothes

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at the mall or you know,
you're a director of finance, marketing,

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whatever, how does the work you're
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are the metrics and results of what
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make? How much money did you
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What makes you unique out of that? That thing you did that you listed

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that you thought was important it might
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a way that shows this is how
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I hired you. They want you
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one of the things too, like
when they get ready to have their performance

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a place and all of that stuff. You need to be writing stuff for

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that too, you know, give
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and maybe you didn't even know it, but this is what like. For

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example, I've had friends that have
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run a large organization that they were, you know, involved in, but

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they don't include that kind of stuff. It's like, let them know.

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They make they don't know what you're
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there, because that's a plus for
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that you know. But they think, oh, well, that's an outside

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think. Maybe I don't need to. Yes, you let them know.

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I always tell them to toot their
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just about to say that. I
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on what is said on paper,
the idol, the hey look read this

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as a pause to really articulating out
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this is why, right, this
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I succeed. I think as women, we are much more hesitant to literally

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to our own horn because we're thinking, oh, they see it, they

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don't see it, trust me,
tell you have to see may see it,

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but they don't think it's like,
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you got paper. Then they're actually
looking at it and they may when

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you tell them, well, I
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people, Yet where I organized this
entire five hundred count event that they didn't

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know. They don't have to put
the mentrics behind it. That's why you

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have missed those metrics how much it
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Now you're you're absolutely right. Wow. Um, So what's the biggest

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area of opportunity for managers with teams
of people and how they can get better

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at what they do? You know, COVID and the pandemic was just you

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know, it changed the world.
It changed so much. And I think

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one of the biggest things that I
see with managers being most challenged in their

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area of opportunity is really managing the
needs of the mental health concerns of their

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teams. Yes, you know,
one of the things I love about younger

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millennials and gen Z They're going to
put their mental health to the forefront and

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it is the number one priority and
you're going to pay attention to it.

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And I admire them that right because
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gen X where that doesn't hurt of
just took a sick day or two sucked

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it up, got over and went
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that was healthy, that's just the
way it was, right, And so

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I feel like today's managers are really
ill equipped to handle these concerns because there's

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rarely a one size fits all solution, right, But what we do know

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is that the solution isn't bringing in
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and making it mandatory for everybody to
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shouldn't be done, but that's not
the real solution. And so when I

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think about that that piece and that
challenge that managers have, it's a lot

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simpler. I think managers just need
to have more empathy, right, And

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we're typically really unempathetic because we don't
understand, we don't know what that person's

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going through, we don't have experience
with it. It's odd, it's disruptive,

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you know. And instead, I
think managers really need to be better

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listeners and really be better at granting
time off, Like if it's not a

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fire, death or robbery, you
can sometime off. It's okay, Right,

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We get so caught up and wanting
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We sacifice the very people we need
to get the work done. Yes,

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and that's that's the big miss,
you know. And very rarely in my

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time of work, very rarely have
I seen people take advantage of time off

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systems. Very rarely do I see
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bandwagon so they can take time off
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unfair. I rarely see that.
But what I have seen is organizations create

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rules and policies that punish the actions
of many based on the actions of a

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few. Ye right, And we're
so untrusting of our employees. We're petrified

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of what the masses are gonna do, and so we put these rules in

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place that really prevent all scenarios in
anything. And that's what employees are fighting

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back against. That's what unionization efforts
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That's why gen Z is quitting via
text because we don't trust them, we're

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not talking to them, we're not
empathizing with them. And not to say

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all those issues are so are around
mental health, but it is causing some

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mental health concerners. So I feel
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organizations really need to jump on to
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Absolutely. Now, one of the
things you mentioned earlier is that you were

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as certified facilitator, and you also
mentioned that that's one of your favorite training.

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Why do you feel personal assessments are
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some of the audiences up there don't
with DISC is, would you let them

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know what? Yeah? Absolutely?
So. The DISK assessment is kind of

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like a personality assessment, and the
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and figure out not only your own
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you. And so I'm sure we've
all taken some form of a DISC assessment

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of Mine's brigs, strength Finder or
something like that. And the thing that

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I found with us, and I'm
not complete, but the thing that I

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found with them is that they're hard
to remember. Right Like if somebody asked

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me my myyer's brigs letters, no
clue, I just don't remember what they

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are. And so self awareness is
the key to success. The better you

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understand not only your strengths, but
your opportunities, your weaknesses. How do

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you act when you're stressed out?
One of those characters? What drives you,

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what motivates you? What are you
fearful about what makes you happy.

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This disk assessment, that's the beauty
of it. It helps you understand that

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not only for yourself, but your
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your boss, your boss's boss.
So it's a really powerful tool.

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So when we think about disc the
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numbers and colors and all these things, we use birds, right, We

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use the birds. And so the
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you identify the traits of those birds
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going to change. It's gonna help
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better, be more empathetic, take
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people are stressed and angry in the
workplace, they're not taking it out on

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you. Look at their style and
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their style plays out under stress.
So it's a really powerful assessment. I'm

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a huge, huge advocate of it. It's a really fun training, it's

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a simple training, and it has
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that people easily remember how to assess. Wow, now I don't ever recall

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taking the disks assessment. I have
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don't. I'm also can Obe and
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one something like, but what does
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you I'm a ninety nine I interactive
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well, what are the characteristics I'm
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If they're interactive, they're social.
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in my personality. Now you start
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in the way I talk, in
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with others. And so once you
learn those are just very easy characteristics,

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you can apply that to everyone in
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powerful tool. That is very interesting. I have to take a look at

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the distance. Yeah, absolutely,
my website reason that is one that I

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have never had the opportunity to take
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fantastic. Yeah. So what's the
biggest change, maybe the biggest challenge you've

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seen leads have to handle in the
last few years since Yeah, again,

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that pandemic was just incredibly disruptive a
lot. Yeah, and in ways that

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I think we're still figuring out and
determining, you know. But when I

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when I think about the challenges today
with managers, aside from the mental health

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challenges that they need to kind of
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get some training behind, um,
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and hybrid teams right. Um.
When the pandemic first hit and everyone was

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working from home, I think some
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many people are online and win and
I thought, okay, that's intrusive,

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but okay, we did a ton
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people got hired during the pandemic,
and now we seem to be, you

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know, completely reverting back. There's
a huge lack of trust and lack of

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product you know, not a lack
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is actually happening, you know.
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and some of those are legitimate concerns, but again it's one of those situations

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where let's going back to the old
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solution or the solution for everybody.
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challenges for managers is you know,
how do you manage those remote teams?

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How do you understand those different styles
of the people on your team? How

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do you, you know, manage
different age groups. You know, we've

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got several generations in the workplace.
Now, who are your team? Have

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you hired remotely that you haven't even
met yet? You should really mean them

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in person? Right, bigly one
all ones, those should actually be required.

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but it's not happening, you know, but the mindfulness that it should

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and there has to be trust,
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you know, I've just always been
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managers number one priority shouldn't really be
the development of their people, because people

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feel invested in and trusted and see
a path forward in their career. When

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they're giving meaningful, broadening assignments,
you're not gonna have quiet quitting. So

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it's twofold. On the one hand, we have managers not doing what they're

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supposed to do for employees, but
we also have employees completely checking out because

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they're not having those conversations with their
managers in there exactly. It's funny,

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I know, you have mentioned too
about having a tracking software set are working

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remotely, because I've seen in my
excess class. Normally I go to like

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a naticle class and the people come
with their laptops. They've put them on

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a side or you know, so
that they can like as long as I'm

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signed in, I'm good. Yeah, yes, exactly. The mindset of

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um why they do that and do
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go on home and get one on
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to treat people like adults, like
we have to not give always give people

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the benefit of the doubt, but
we've just got to set the expectation and

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then follow up accordingly. Are there
people out there of using the system,

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Absolutely, but it is the onus
of the least management system. And the

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fact that these companies are losing these
corporate leases, is that are our backs?

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there's not a one size fit solution
making everybody go back into the office.

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That doesn't work anymore. People have
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caring for children, like it's just
a different day now. And I

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don't think managers and organizations are really
on board with that. Yet I don't

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think they get it yet. I
really don't because they're looking at that bottom

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line. A lot of them even
feel like two are they realized, Hey,

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I can still do the work I
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home what I need to do.
But again, like you said, it's

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the discipline part and the con system
because even if you're at home and you're

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supposed to be on the clock from
what to five or three or whatever,

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then you really need to make that
sacrifice to make sure that you know,

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people put that effort in there to
do that because like you said, want

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you know, a couple can make
it bad for a few and so that

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you have some employees are insisting that
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office. But then your other hand, you have a lot of for example,

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the federal government, they're playing for
space. Yeah, a lot of

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people for space right. Absolutely,
they want to they want to come back

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and want them to come back so
they can feel that space up to the

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cases. So you know, you, like you say, it really did

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change or whole that pandemic. It
did. It did, And then I

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looked to it some organizations. My
last organization NPR National Public Radio. We

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didn't miss it be. We didn't
miss it be. If you were a

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regular listener to NPR, you would
never know that those hosts were in their

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homes, in their closets with mattresses
over the door, Like we got it

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done. And I'm not saying that
that's unequivocally how should we should do a

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moving forward, But for those who
are capable and who for those who you

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know, show that level of productivity, it can be done. It absolutely

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can be done. Absolutely absolutely Wow. So what are some ways that people

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can better seek out new career opportunities? Market being so unpredictable? Yeah,

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So when I think about that question, I think my answer is going to

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sound very philosophical, but it does
ring true, and it's to me the

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kind of foundation of when you started
job, sirch So the first one is

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just your mindset right, and the
second piece of it is really understanding and

413
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being able to articulate your purpose,
your values, and your motors. And

414
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we go into job searching so often
taking what the market gives us, whatever,

415
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whatever it says, whatever it says, I gotta do, I gotta

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do this this, I gotta have
this, this I gotta have these responsibilities,

417
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:30.720
these tasks, these skills, instead
of really asking for what we are

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seeking. Right, because we don't
believe us out there, We don't negotiate

419
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salaries, we don't have a debt
reduction plan for when we do get the

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salary we want, right, we
go into it wanting to really maintain our

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lifestyle and focus on making more and
having a better lifestyle with more money.

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So my whole philosophy as a career
coach is to get you to a career

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you love. And that doesn't just
mean peppering the internet for the same resume.

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So the titles and salary and trying
to see if you can and check

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off every single one of the responsibilities
and skills that that job description says.

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Right, tendary one dimensional in our
career search and just like I said,

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accepting what the market gives us,
the job market is unpredictable, now you

428
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right, you need to go into
this search with the sense of who you

429
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want to help, where you add
value, what makes you excited about the

430
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role, What can you do in
your sleep, what's easy for you?

431
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You know, what type of environment
do you want to be in? And

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so I don't think we go into
our job search, you know, with

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that mentality, we go in job
board, job board, job board title,

434
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title title, Oh, I think
this paid enough? And we go

435
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and we you know, and it's
just a mindset change in terms of really

436
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understanding what our authentic vocation is and
taking some real time to do that.

437
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And I don't want people to get
discouraged. That can't take time. But

438
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you're making the decision, Hey,
I'm in this role now and I want

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to go find a new opportunity.
There's some key mental work I think that

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you have to do first before you
step out there. Because the jobs are

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there, they're gonna be hiring.
The market is up and down, but

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if you've got skills, there are
roles and opportunities out there. We just

443
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.920
need to get really much more specific
about what we want and how we want

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00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.360
it. And it's out there.
It can be done, but we got

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to change that mindset first, absolutely
so now and we could pretty much hear

446
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.159
it in your voice, But tell
what are you passionate about and how do

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you incorporate that into your work?
What am I passionate about? Well,

448
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.559
first, the first thing that comes
to mind, I love to read and

449
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.840
I love to write, and so
I'm really big on sharing books and reading

450
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.920
and I'm in several book clubs and
all of that, and I always kind

451
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of kind of share that with my
clients, particularly the career development books I

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00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.639
know that worked for me and sharing
that information. My model is the answers

453
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.800
in the book. I've heard so
many people say so many times, I

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read this book and it changed my
life. It changed my perspective. It

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gave me the nugget that I needed. And so you're not reading, I

456
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beg of you go read, because
reading, to me is just so so

457
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critical. The other thing that I've
gotten super passionate about, which is a

458
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:22.239
little bit of a surprise, I
really like graphic design. I can spend

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00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:29.039
all day in Campvade doing stuff and
creating stuff. Unfortunate I get to do

460
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.000
that for my business. I also
do that work for my church, so

461
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.400
for median communications team, and so
graphic design for me has just really like

462
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.239
I love it so much. I
almost thought about it. I go this

463
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.320
as a side hustle to my side
hustle. This is fun for me,

464
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:51.519
but yeah, yeah, but the
graphic design piece I really love to do.

465
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And then the last thing I would
say is just really being into technology

466
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.039
and particularly AIM. So I'm a
huge advocate right now out of learning tech,

467
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:06.239
understanding tech, understanding AI, understanding
chat GPT. I write about it,

468
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.880
I blog about it, I tell
my clients about it. I'm still

469
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:14.760
learning about it. I was just
in a webinar earlier this week that was

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00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.760
giving an overview of it, and
I've been through a dozen overviews, but

471
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:22.920
I always learned something new every time. This AI have its scary parts,

472
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.559
absolutely. Is it going to eliminate
some jobs, absolutely? Is it going

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00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.639
to create new opportunities? Absolutely?
And so I would rather need my clients,

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you know, the people that I
impact and touch and talk to.

475
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.360
I would rather than be on the
side of understanding it and learning about it

476
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.880
and knowing about it and ignoring it
and not paying attention to it, because

477
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.599
that's how you really get, you
know, knocked out of the park.

478
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.480
So those are three things that you
know. I'm super passionate about it,

479
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.119
and I love to share with people
all the time. So good, good

480
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.400
to here. So tell me what
do you have coming up? Anything on

481
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.039
the horizon that you want to tell
us about that you you know anywhere you're

482
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:05.119
gonna be that you might have about
Yeah, no, thank you for asking.

483
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.400
I'm getting there right. So I
will be a guest speaker in December

484
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.400
at the mid Atlantic Career Councilors Association. I'll be speaking on technology, so

485
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.679
I'm excited about that. Later this
month, I'll be doing some training around

486
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.719
resumes and interview for the US Botanical
Gardens, which is a division of the

487
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.440
architect of the Capitol here in Washington, DC. So I'll be doing some

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00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:34.800
training there, and then just what's
today, Today's Thursday? Thursday. On

489
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.039
Tuesday, I just got an email
about being a guest speaker at another conference

490
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.440
for women's leadership, So I'll be
kind of wrapping that up and getting the

491
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.599
details about that, but it'll all
be on my website. Super excited about

492
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.119
the opportunities that I'm being granted,
especially to speak and to write. Those

493
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.159
are the biggest areas that I love
to do in training. So I'm just

494
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.960
super grateful and just you know,
so blessed that you know, again,

495
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.760
I overcame that fear and just getting
out here and trying to do all the

496
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.519
things you know that I love and
still get paid for it. That's an

497
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.679
entrepreneur. So I'm super super grateful. For it. So tell us if

498
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:13.920
you had one piece of advice that
you leave with our viewers and our listeners,

499
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:22.400
what would that advice be. I
would say, overcome your fears.

500
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.960
I'm not the first to do this, I'm not the last to do this.

501
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.719
And when I just think back over
my journey over the last you know,

502
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.920
two three years and the changes that
have come about, is really about

503
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.719
overcoming fear. Like we are our
own worst critics and greatest you know,

504
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.320
enemies of you know, self doubt
and not doing things, and so just

505
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.239
start. It doesn't have to be
perfect, it doesn't have to be the

506
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.599
greatest, it doesn't have to be
super new, but just get on board

507
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.920
with a few people who are in
the space that you want to be in.

508
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:04.159
Absolutely listen to what are talking about. Listen to some podcasts like it's

509
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.639
it's a lot easier than people make
it out to be. And I'm not

510
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.840
saying it's easy it's a cakewalk,
But if you just apply yourself, if

511
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.239
you start to start, just overcome
that fear and start. It's where I

512
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.840
would tell people to land because it's
it's such a blessing on the other side,

513
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:25.000
it really is. Wow. So
tell us how can the viewers and

514
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:32.679
listeners find you if they want to
contact you with any questions, anything that

515
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:37.840
they might want to know about,
let us know how they can reach out

516
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.519
to you. Absolutely, So,
first off, my email address, it's

517
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.280
info I Info at Ayanna E.
Jackson dot com. Super simple. And

518
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.519
then on social media platforms just about
everyone, you can find me as Ayanna

519
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:58.360
Career Coach. I just join Threads, the new Twitter. If you're on

520
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.199
Threads, come follow me. There
have a ball over there, that's a

521
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.239
great platform. I'm also of course
on LinkedIn. You can find me at

522
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:09.119
Ayanna E. Jackson or my company
A E J Consalting LLC. So I'm

523
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:14.480
pretty easy to find Ayanna Career Coach
across the board is how you can find

524
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.599
me. And yes she is.
I found her on LinkedIn and that's how

525
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.800
we make this. So I know
that you are very easy to find because

526
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.599
when I reached out to you,
you responded. You know, you got

527
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.400
back right away. So uh,
it was great having you on the show,

528
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.679
super quick. Thank you so much. Have you shared your nuggets with

529
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.840
us? And actually I'll probably reach
out to you again something else you might

530
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.400
another platform you may want to come
and talk about the things that you do,

531
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:52.239
especially business wise. The Black Missiness
Fix is a entrepreneur, absolutely sure

532
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.559
so, and I mean the things
that you've done and what you're doing.

533
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.480
It would be a great thing for
you to come on and talk about.

534
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.159
Thank you, Okay, thank you, yeah, so, thank you again

535
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.760
for joining us today. It's been
great to have you on the show.

536
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:13.360
And I will be back in touch
with you. Thank you. What's going

537
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.880
on? So, but right now
I'm going to talk about some upcoming events

538
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:24.119
that I have coming up, and
that is for to let everyone know that

539
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.880
they should not forget to pre order
their copies of the Own It anthology It's

540
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.360
Your Life, Own It Unapologetically and
the Journal three hundred and sixty five days

541
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:45.119
to transformation. To pre order the
paperback book and journal separately, each will

542
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:50.440
be twenty four ninety nine for if
you purchase just the one, or to

543
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:54.039
order the complete set both the book
and the journal, it is forty nine

544
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ninety nine. To order your copies, you can email me at info at

545
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:07.159
each XWSI dot com, or you
can go to my link of www dot

546
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:14.400
my website, I should say www
dot EXWSI dot com. The Success Store

547
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.880
click on at the top the success
store and also the links are there where

548
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:23.559
you can order them through my website. Also, make sure to tune in

549
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.840
to the Black Business Olympics this month. It's going to be July twenty fourth

550
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:35.480
through July thirtieth. And of course, the Black Business Olympics is a fundraiser

551
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:42.239
to provide scholarships and laptops to high
school seniors going to college and K through

552
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:50.119
twelve entrepreneurs. The Black Business Olympics
showcases black businesses, black business owners and

553
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.039
corporations all around the world. And
if you'd like to be a speaker to

554
00:42:54.119 --> 00:43:04.159
showcase your business, you can email
me at info at EXWSI dot com and

555
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.360
here it comes. I want you
to get ready. Get ready, then

556
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:13.079
start packing or get your bags ready, get your suitcases ready because the next

557
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:17.840
show up to rise up twenty twenty
four Women's Retreat, we will be heading

558
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:23.280
to Jamaica. So make sure that
you start now to update or get your

559
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.440
passport because as I understand, it's
a bit of a weight. May take

560
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.119
about three, I don't know,
three to six months for you to obtain

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00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:35.800
your passport if you don't already have
one. So you want to get that

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00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.000
started now so that won't be a
deterrent Again, make sure you get ready

563
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:46.360
for the twenty twenty four Show Up
to Rise Up Women's Retreat and I also

564
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:52.280
coming soon you'll be able to join
the women Show Up to Rise Up Network

565
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.480
and the mission of course of the
Women's Show Up to Rise Up Network will

566
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:02.320
be to empower and to connect all
women in their career, business, professional

567
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:08.480
and personal lives by helping them to
gain resources, gain buying power, increase

568
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:15.199
their revenue and accelerate their personal business
and career growth through unlimited opportunities. And

569
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.039
as a member you will be you
will have access to coaching, training,

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00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:29.159
different events, workshops, resources,
networking and much more. All set too.

571
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:34.199
If you have not viewed my TEDx
talk that I did in Vancouver,

572
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.320
Canada, make sure to do so. My topic again is show Up to

573
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:43.480
Rise Up. You can watch it
on YouTube. If you do, you

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00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:47.159
can put my name in the search
box doctor Madeline and Lewis, or you

575
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:53.400
can email me at info at EXWSI
dot com and I will send you the

576
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:59.000
direct link. Make sure to check
it out as I'm excited because as of

577
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:05.519
today it has one hundred sixty eight
thousand, eight hundred and sixty nine views

578
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.559
and of course, my goal is
to reach one million plus, So thank

579
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.320
you and for all of those who
have already viewed it and thanking thanking you

580
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:21.119
in advance for those that will support
and share the video, and we'll be

581
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:27.000
doing so. I am also a
contributing writer to the own It magazine where

582
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:31.719
I share nuggets and resources every month. Own It Magazine is a resource for

583
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:38.280
personal and professional business development, so
make sure you get a copy or either

584
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:44.320
you can get a subscription. And
for the subscription of the magazine, you

585
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:52.280
can go to my website www dot
EXWSI dot com or again you can email

586
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.960
me info at EXWSI dot com.
I'll be glad to send you a digital

587
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.320
copy so you could take a look
at the magazine and see what you'll be

588
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:07.519
getting. And that will be all
of the announcements. So again, I

589
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:13.599
want to thank my guests, Miss
Ayanna E. Jackson for joining us today.

590
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.360
She shared some great nuggets, so
if you did not take notes,

591
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.119
you can always go back and listen
to this episode. I want to thank

592
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.599
all my viewers and listeners for joining
me today. This has been the successful

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00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.760
women's show. I am doctor Madeline
Anne Lewis and if you like to reach

594
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:37.800
out to me. You can always
email me at info at exwsi dot com

595
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:45.960
or go to my website www dot
exwsi dot com and while you're there may

596
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:52.719
show you download my three part video
series on three things every woman should do

597
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:59.039
to position herself for executive leadership.
And don't forget to sign up for my

598
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online core which is Cracked the Career
Code how to Lead with Confidence, Charisma

599
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.840
and Credibility. To sign up for
the course, you can go to www

600
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:15.880
dot Crack the Careercode dot com.
You can also reach out to me on

601
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:21.880
any of the social media sites.
I'm easy to find. Again, just

602
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.800
put in my name and it should
pull it right up. Don't forget to

603
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:31.239
subscribe to the channel, my YouTube
channel and also the talk for TV channel.

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Like this episode, and make sure
that you share, Share Share,

605
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because we had some great nuggets today
from Ayanna E. Jackson. Again,

606
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:47.239
this is a success for women's show. We are here every Thursday at two

607
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:53.719
pm Eastern Standard time. I'm your
host, doctor Madeline and Lewis helping women

608
00:47:53.760 --> 00:48:00.159
to accelerate the path to success.
Thank you all again for joining me.

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00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:06.559
I love you all to life.
So as always be well and stay safe

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00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:29.920
out there I got the eye of
the time, and