Dec. 19, 2024

Write By Steph

Write By Steph
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Join Dr. Lewis in a conversation with Stephanie Malench, the founder of Write By Steph. Write By Steph is a full-service professional writing and editing company. Stephanie is the author of two resource-driven non-fiction books, including a second edition that emerged from a "failed" first release. Email: writebysteph@gmail.com

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Did you know women represent just three percent of Fortune

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five hundred CEO in less than fifteen percent of corporate

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executives at top companies worldwide? Have you wondered what the

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secrets are to getting into the top ranks, whether in

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the private or public sector. Do you want to figure

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out how to stop being held back in your career?

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Are passed over for promotion, then you're in the right place. Hi.

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I'm doctor Matlanan Lewis, President and CEO of the Executive

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Women's Success Institute. I have decades of experience in the military,

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the federal government, and corporate America, and my mission is

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to help women succeed and tap into their full potential.

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I want to.

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Reach a million plus women around the world to become

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the leaders they are meant to be. So if you

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want to move into a management or executive level position,

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the military into business entrepreneurship, then reach out to the

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Executive Women's Success Institute at three zero one six nine

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Two eight four.

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Let us get you on the fast track to success. Well, hello,

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and welcome to the Success for Women's Show, where you

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can view us on Talk for TV and listen to

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us on the Women for Women Network. I am doctor

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Madeline Ann Lewis your host, and my mission is to

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help women accelerate the path to success. Well, today we

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have another interesting topic and it is Right with Steph

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and my guest is Stephanie Melic. I hope I'm pronouncing

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that correctly. Let me just give you a little bit

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of background on Stephanie. Stephanie is the founder of Write

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with Steph. Right with Steph is a full service professional

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writing and editing company. Stephanie is the author of two

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resource driven non fiction books, including a second edition that

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emerged from a failed first release. By repositioning the book

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to target the correct audience, Stephanie achieved remarkable results, selling

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over one hundred copies in less than a month, an

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impressive turnaround from the initial edition, which sold only two

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dozen copies over fifteen years. So let me introduce again

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my guest, Miss Stephanie Malich. Hello, Hi, Steph. Did I

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pronounce your last name?

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Correct?

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A chain link Malink?

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Okay, wow, Okay, got that one wrong. We corrected that.

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But here's the thing before we get started. I always

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like to give the standard bio, but then I like

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to ask my guests to tell us. So you tell

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us what you want us to know about Stephanie Malink.

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I am a full service business writer and editor company owner.

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My company is right by Steph. I have had it

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on and off for over twenty years, but full time

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for the past three years. I do resumes, cover letters,

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LinkedIn profiles, digital and print, magazine and newspaper articles, and

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then I also love to edit college papers and PhD dissertations.

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I like to brag that I have eight PhDs because

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that's how many dissertations I have edited, and I always

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learned something new when I'm editing those and then I

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I also have a third book that I just released

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on the day on Thanksgiving, AI and Writing Dangers for

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Journalists and Creative Writers.

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Okay, so tell us why a writer? Why did you

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become a writer?

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I have always been a creative person, and I am

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much better at writing than drawing or painting or doing

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any of the other two D and three D arts.

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I have tried them all, but writing is what I

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really can stick with, and it's something that I don't

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need a special space to do. As long as I

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can have my laptop, I can write. And I actually

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got into journalism because I wanted to be an editor

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because all I could see.

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Were the mistakes.

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When I would read a newspaper, I wouldn't remember what

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the article was about because I was just reading typos.

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And when I became a newspaper editor a little over

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three years ago, the first time I had a typo

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on the front page, I was beating myself up, and

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my manager said, that's not your job anyway, that's the

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job of a proofreader. And only the New York Times

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and the big papers have proofreaders. And I'm like, no, wonder,

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everything is so bad.

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Oh.

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I tried to be more careful. It is so hard

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to edit your own work.

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Absolutely, it really is. Actually I use grammarly to correct

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my stuff, so that that kind of helps me, especially

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if I'm writing an article or something, I'll use that

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to help find any typos or you know, grammar grammatical errors.

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You have to be careful with Grammarly because it is

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AI fed now, and so if you have a word

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that maybe it can be spelled more than one way,

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it's not going to catch those kind of typing errors.

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The Merriam Webster Dictionary Online and the Oxford Dictionary Online

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are the best ways to go for editing. Even even

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the Microsoft word features are better than Grammarly.

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Oh wow, okay, that's good to know. I mean, I

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do know sometimes when I go through it and they

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may try to correct something, I may not like that,

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and so I won't you know, I won't go with it.

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But I didn't realize that, you know that it that

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was that it was kind of AI generated. I wasn't

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aware of that. So tell me this, since, especially since

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let's say the pandemic, have you seen a lot of

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people coming to you for maybe rewrites in their resumes

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or because you know, a lot of people now working

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from home, and so those that uh and some had

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to because of the pandemic. Some of their organizations may

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have shut down, so they had to go and look

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for something else. Do you see people coming to you

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now for a lot of rewrites or maybe updates on

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their resume resumes?

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I do. It's cyclical.

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Right now is a busy season for me because everyone

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wants to start the new year off with a new

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and better job, So I'm always busy. Kind of towards

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the end of the year, I'll have another uptick around

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me when college graduates are getting out and they don't

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know how to write their first resume, or three months

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later when they've been using their Canva resume they created

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and can't figure out why they aren't getting any calls

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because the settings in Canva do not they can't be

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read by the AI bots again that most human resource

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departments use to weed out the resumes that don't have

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the right keywords, or that can't follow directions.

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Or so you mentioned keywords. So when you're doing a resume,

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what's the one important thing that you feel should be

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in there that would when they first look at it,

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I mean, when they get it and they take that

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first look, what should jump out at them.

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There should be an objective and there should be a

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lengthy set of skills that are tied to the position

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that you are applying for. If the job description says

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they want you to have Microsoft Excel experience, do not

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put that you have Microsoft Office experience because even though

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that includes Excel, they are looking for the computer is trained.

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To just look for the word Excel.

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So you have to spell out each of the different

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programs that you have experienced with.

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Okay, So how do you think, because I know a

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lot of interviews now are being conducted like the online,

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you know, via via zoom or streamyard or what have you.

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Do you feel that when they're sitting there with the resume,

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it still has to present itself a certain way or

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you know, because you know, back in the day, those

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resumes were just like really plain, you didn't have a

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whole lot of stuff. But now it seems that they

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have to be a little more interesting for people to

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even pick it up and look at it, you know.

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And if it's a job that you're allowed to take

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in a printed copy of your resume, it is definitely

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okay to use the Canva templates and the more fancy

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color blocking statistics boxes. Things like that. Boxes just aren't

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able to be read. Unfortunately, in the software that the

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companies are using, some of the software is it depends.

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Sometimes the older software works better, other times the new does.

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But you don't know what each company has, so you

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have to just be extra careful and assume that everyone

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has the software that is not going to like your

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emojis for like your phone number and text and all that.

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I had one plan I did a resume for She

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was trying to show off her skills as a creative,

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and so she had her name in white print in

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a black box. She had a telephone by her telephone number,

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a house by her physical address, which you don't have

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to put your physical address anymore because that is actually

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a way of profiling people. If you live in a

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lower income area, they're less likely to hire.

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You because.

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Something may happen and you may be more transient, and

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they don't like that. They want someone that's in it

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for the long haul. But I took her, but because

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basically she had a play resume, because the reverse print

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showed that there was no name. The icons block all

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the information after that. So she had a resume with

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no name, no phone number, no email, no nothing. When

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I revamped it and got rid of the reverse color blocking,

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got rid of the EMO GS, cleaned up some boxes,

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she goes getting more phone calls than she knew.

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What to do with.

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Unfortunately, she hadn't thought about what did she really want

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to do. So she's like, well, I don't like this one.

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I don't like that one. I can't help with that.

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I'm not a job.

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It's a business you have.

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That's why I coming in.

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So what tell us what sets you apart from other writers?

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Now we talked about you doing resumes, but you also

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write different articles. Do you also help people with ghostwriting

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maybe they want to write a book or something like that.

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Do you do any small ghost writing? I ghost write

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like little magazine articles, or if it's a letter of recommendation,

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or if they're applying for a political seat that's been

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vacated for some reason and it's they're filling in off

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election cycle. I will write those letters for people.

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Ah okay, well some of these politicians should know about you. Then,

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So tell us what sets you apart from other writers,

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because we know a lot of companies you know, hire

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people just to write their commercials, just to write their

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speeches and different things like that. So what sets you

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apart from other writers?

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What sets me apart is the fact that I do

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not rely on or use AI at all. Everything comes

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from my head or whatever you provide me information wise,

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you don't want to use chat GPT even to just

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get an outline because that information is no longer yours.

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A lot of people think that they can write their

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books or frame out of character or a scene using

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chat GPT, and what comes out of there is no

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longer able to be copyrighted.

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Why write a book if you can't copyright it?

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Mm hmmm wow.

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Ah. Well, you know that's interesting because you if you

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look actually, if you look at like TikTok or whatever,

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there's all these ads that if you scroll up you

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see these people. Oh, go on chat GPT and you know,

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ask it to do such and such, and it will

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give you this whole outline of for a book or

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an ebook or an e course or something like that.

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ads that's doing that. Yeah, wow, that's interesting. I didn't

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realize that those things that you could not you know,

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if you used it, you could.

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people that's probably doing it's probably doing that.

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it's like, oh, well, if chat GPT scrapes what I've

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asked it to create for my character, and someone else

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public uses that character in their book and they have

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a number one best seller and I don't have my

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book written yet, well good for them, they can have it.

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thoughts and ideas in there, and so yeah, I guess

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that would be defeating the purpose to use that tool,

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especially the to write a book or something like that. Interesting,

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a writer or an editor? Like I said, I know

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a lot of companies do that. They have you know,

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that's that's like a job title. Just that's all they

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do is, you know, they're the writer. They may I

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remember when I was in the federal government and they

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had a person that that was their title. Their title

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was only just to write the speeches for the executives.

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contract you to do that. So why do you think

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it's important for them to have that type of vehicle

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in their organizations?

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Well, Number one, back to the chat GPT.

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There's no emotion in anything that chat GPT creates.

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going to be either overly complex or overly simplified language. Also,

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writing a speech or a presentation or something is an

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art form. Not everyone can do that.

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is told to me about that person, and I can

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make it. I can make it. You be able to

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close your eyes and visualize that person standing there giving

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their presentation, or you can you can understand you feel

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like you're wherever the person is talking about.

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little bit about the audience they're going to be speaking to.

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Yeah, okay, so let's say, well, I am I'm a speaker.

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Do you would you feel that I would need to

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write because I'm a speaker that every time I go

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out and have to do a presentation, should I have

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someone right? You know, it.

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you want to say. People that are just starting out,

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or they're giving a presentation and for the first time

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and they don't know what to say. Absolutely, you need

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a speech writer because you have to again target that audience.

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mission is, why you want whatever position it is that

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you are applying for, how you can help your audience

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get what they deserve.

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Now do you have with your services?

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I'm thinking you work both with men and women? Correct

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or is it most women? Both men and women? You

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see that you have more women coming to you. Is

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that more men are Do you have a mixture of both.

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women though, because they they're finally their kids are out

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of the house. They're able to go after that dream

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job they've always wanted and they don't feel like they

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don't have they have anything to put on a resume

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because they've only worked secretarial or they've only been a

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state at home mom or a homeschool teacher. A lot

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of those areas all have they translate into the real

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job world.

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Okay, okay, So give us an example of that, especially

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for a stay home mom. How would you translate something

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that they do into their resume.

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Coordinating all the kids' sports and schedules and everything that

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can be management, schedule management, chauffeur, taking the kids around,

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meal prep correct to correctly preparing the meals for all

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of the different needs that our bodies have.

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Okay, so it would be all in the wording as

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to It's sort of like with the military, when they

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transition out of the military into civilian employment, they have

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to change that language, the military language, so that it

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fits the civilian world. So that's what that sounds like, Yes,

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making it fit the civilian world from them being a

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stay at home mom.

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I got it.

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Okay, that makes sense. So now we've been talking about

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the chat GBT, and I know you said you kind

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of mentioned a couple of things about why we shouldn't

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use it, But give us maybe some real important facts

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as to why we shouldn't use chat GBT because chat

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GBT and you know, all this AI stuff. That's that's

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all you're hearing right now. And you know people are

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starting to rely a lot on that. So give us

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just some you know, a feel reasons why we shouldn't especially,

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we should not rely on it. I know you said sometimes,

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especially with a book that you someone the informat, you

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wouldn't be able to copyright your book if you use that.

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So is there anything else you could think of? Any

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reasons why we shouldn't, you know, rely on chat GBT.

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Your brain is just like any other muscle in your body.

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If you don't use it, you're not going to be

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able to keep it. Having chat GPT do all of

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your writing, you're not coming up with the thoughts in

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your head. You can't think quickly. You you're not going

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to retain information because you're asking the computer to do

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it for you.

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Well, I say that's why they're doing it, because they

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don't they can't come up with any you know, they

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don't have those ideas, like they say, creative ideas, the invention.

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They don't have that. So that's why they feel this

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too might be you know, an easy thing to get

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sort of get hooked on in a way.

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have to keep doing it and practicing to get good

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at it.

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Right exactly, exactly wow.

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So and especially with students, students are using I heard

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a statistic on the radio and I bout drove off

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the road.

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It was so shocking.

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About thirty three percent of students starting in middle school

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or using chat GPT not just to do their essays,

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but to answer their short answer questions to take their

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tests for them. And about seventy percent of parents don't

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realize that their children are using chat GPT to do

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their homework. Schools are actually required going back to requiring

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paper in class assignments so that they can see, okay,

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are they do they really have the concepts?

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M Now wouldn't that, especially if it's college student, wouldn't

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that come up as a little bit of plagiarism That does?

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That's one of the dangers, especially with journalism. I went

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to a conference this summer and a local newspaper reporter

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was there and told the story about an article she

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had written for the local paper, a offshore AI paper

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that just scours the internet looking for stuff to republish,

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republished her story with incorrect quotes, changing information, and the

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people that she wrote about were not happy, and she

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couldn't figure out why they weren't happy, And she went

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to their to her boss, the quality control and legal

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of the newspaper, and they found out that this other

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publication had scraped her article and had just messed everything up,

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misattributed quotes, said people said things that they didn't.

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Wow, that's interesting.

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So now, okay, let's say I wanted to write an autobiography,

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which one day I might want to do that. So

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how do I get started to do that?

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How would I do that? Where do I start?

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First thing you need to decide is how you want

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to organize your story. Do you want to do it chronologically,

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starting from when you were a child, or do you

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want to do it based on themes all the jobs

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you've had from the time you were sixteen, on your

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career as a parent versus your career as a grandparent,

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your spiritual career, your background in education, what you've learned

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differently in.

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Different steps of the educational process.

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just make a bunch of notes as to what topics

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will go underneath those headings, and then you've got your chapters.

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Okay, because you know, we're starting to see we see

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a lot of people that write their autobiography. So it's

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kind of interesting. I guess too. I guess you have to,

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like you say, figure out just where do you want

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to start. Do you want to start in the beginning

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of your life or in the middle, or you know

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where you are right now.

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And start from there.

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And a lot of a lot of people have come

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to me saying that they have this great idea and

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everyone needs to read their story. I had three women

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come up to me within months of each other. They

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all had the same story. If a lot, if you

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feel a lot of people have the same story, maybe

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do an anthology and then that way you don't have

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the pressure of writing a whole book either. This was

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these women were all we're all raped as young girls,

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and so they wanted to They want to keep They

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want other women to know it's okay to admit this

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happened to you and not to suppress it, and to

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go on that. That would be an excellent anthology chapter.

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Three different people's whole books about that topic are probably

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not going to sell, especially when they're not known people.

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Okay, so tell us when you talk about anthology, tell

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we let our viewing audience know kind of what an

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anthology is, so that you will they can understand why

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when you say they might not it might.

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Not sell because you know the people tell us about that.

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So an anthology is a collection of stories on one

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theme by a variety of writers. I am in one anthology,

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Perfectly Imperfect, where there were forty two of us authors

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that each wrote a chapter about how we overcame adversity

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as young girls to become to become successful, strong adults,

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and everyone everyone had a slightly different turn somewhere again

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about how they overcame rape. Others were how they overcame

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the death of a child, not being able to get

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the job they wanted because it was so long ago

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there were gender issues.

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M Okay. So, so you said you feel that doing

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an anthology sometimes it may not sell.

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Why do you feel that way?

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Anthologies do sell? Anthology the one I was in became

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an international bestseller because you have so many authors promoting it. Okay,

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you're able to get a larger audience.

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Right, Okay, yeah, because I know I've you know, I've

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been in when I actually when I first started out

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in my business, that was the first Doing an anthology

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was my first introduction to being an author, you know,

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like you said, And because you don't, you're not actually

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writing a whole book, You're only writing a chapter, and

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so that's kind of a little easier to kind of

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introduce you to, Okay, do I really want to write something?

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You know, do I really feel that I have a

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book in me? So, but yeah, that was that was

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my first introduction, and that was years years ago. And

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of course you and I both know Marissa, so I

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have I did do uh one with her. So, but yeah,

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that they are very interesting in that, like you say,

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there's a lot of people in it, you know, you

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you normally have several authors in it, or several people,

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I should say, and they each their stories are all different.

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I mean, you never know what that that person's even

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if it may be the same, but it's still.

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Gonna be different. It still will be different.

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So that's why I said about the you know, the anthologies,

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and with how well they can do, especially like I said,

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if you're not sure, if you really want to write

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a book, but you still want to be considered because

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you're you know, you're an author at that point because

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you've written something and it's in a book, so you

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are then classified as an author.

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So yeah, and you get coaching along when you do

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it an anthology too, so you're learning to become a

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better writer. And again, the one I was in the

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coach was actually a social worker, so she was able

473
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if someone had something really difficult. They were writing about

474
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.559
helping them through the emotion. Why is that hard for

475
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.720
you to write about? How do you feel when you

476
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.400
write that? Did you leave something out because you're maybe

477
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.880
afraid it's too personal? And they really work with you.

478
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:49.119
So again, you mentioned the different things that you do.

479
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.480
I don't think you told us everything you do. Kind

480
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.559
of give us a kind of a listing of all

481
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.759
the things that you do as a writer.

482
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:03.720
I do resumes, I do letters. I do copywriting for

483
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:11.039
websites and blogs. I maintain a couple different websites for clients,

484
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.240
which I love because I get to write on a

485
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:18.759
different topic every month. I also do I write for

486
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.319
several magazines besides on It and Fitness Fanatics, I also

487
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:28.880
write for some neighborhood magazines. If someone's unsure how to

488
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.519
write about their business for a local magazine.

489
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:32.079
I'll do that.

490
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.359
I have five years of newspaper experience covering city hall

491
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:43.720
and village board issues and interviewing politicians.

492
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:50.599
Okay, okay, So if you were if someone wanted to

493
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:56.640
get into your field, what would be something that you

494
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.200
would tell them to do to be able to get

495
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:03.319
into that fee and also maybe get clients to come

496
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.039
to them.

497
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:11.240
Practice right, just to write. If you see something that

498
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.640
you think I could have written that better, then try

499
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.559
to rewrite it better yourself and see if you do

500
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.160
a better job of it. You don't have to be

501
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:26.880
a journalism major to write for newspapers anymore.

502
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:32.240
There we go.

503
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.680
You don't even have to be an English major. And

504
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.240
there are so many different types of journalism out there.

505
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:45.279
People think journalism that's newspapers. Newspapers are dying. I want to.

506
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.839
I own one newspaper that is a digital it's all online.

507
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:53.039
We're part English, part Spanish. I'm doing a revamp so

508
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:58.519
that the whole whole website can be translated into Spanish.

509
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:05.920
Even blogging is considered journalism these days, or doing podcasts

510
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:11.839
or YouTube channels or radio. There's so many different ways

511
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.480
that you can get into journalism these days.

512
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.799
Mm hm okay.

513
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.720
So some people might ask the question of again, why

514
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.960
should I need to hire an editor?

515
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.000
I mean, like you say, there.

516
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:31.160
You know, there's spell check, and there's well, like I say,

517
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.599
grambly or what have you. So why do you think

518
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.960
you know people should hire an editor?

519
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.599
Like I said earlier, you can't edit your own work.

520
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.960
I the first book I put out, I had so

521
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.279
many typos in it. When I re released, I'm like,

522
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.240
oh my gosh, how did I How did I miss

523
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.680
all of this? It's because I was reading it correctly

524
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.880
in my brain, but that isn't what was on the

525
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.640
screen or on the paper. Also, having someone else at

526
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.440
your work can help you if you're not explaining anything clearly,

527
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.039
or maybe the words should be reordered, reorder the paragraphs,

528
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.159
or even move a paragraph to a different chapter if

529
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.519
it's a longer piece.

530
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:18.880
Like a book.

531
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:27.000
Okay, okay, So tell us what's next? Do you do

532
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.119
any training? Do you help train individuals to do what

533
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.639
you do? You know, providing the type of training.

534
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:39.159
I've tried having like writers' workshops before, where people can

535
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.480
come in and focus on something like updating their business plan.

536
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.039
So many business owners don't update their business plan because

537
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.920
they just don't have time. So I have tried offering

538
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.440
seminars where they just come in. There may be a

539
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.679
little bit of networking at the beginning. I may explain

540
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.559
why they need a different piece of writing, like a

541
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.440
lead magnet, and then the rest of the time they

542
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.199
just sit and they quietly work.

543
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.639
I was going to collect.

544
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.639
The phones and they were going to get two free

545
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:17.000
pages of editing during the conference. But I'm in southern Illinois,

546
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.960
outside Saint Louis, so things don't take off here like

547
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.599
they do on the coast. I'm sure if I was

548
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.440
on the coast, I would have had one hundred people

549
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:30.599
come to a workshop like that. Unfortunately, trying to promote

550
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.440
it digitally on Facebook, buying ads and all that, I

551
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.440
just couldn't. I wasn't getting the traction that I needed

552
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.360
to get the time I tried to do it on

553
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.320
Zoom to get anyone to show up.

554
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.639
Okay, so right now you don't have any training, Well,

555
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.199
tell us about your book. You mentioned you have a

556
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.360
new book out right now, tell us about that.

557
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.760
Yes, the danger AI in writing dangers to journalists and

558
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.480
creative writers.

559
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.480
Gives the history of AI AI.

560
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.400
It just it may have only sprung on us two

561
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.480
years ago, but it has been being developed for over

562
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.360
one hundred years. So it explains a little bit about

563
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.199
how they taught the computers to play chess and checkers

564
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:23.360
and different things. Alexa is actually a AI device, So

565
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:27.199
whatever you ask Alexa to look up for you, it's

566
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.960
going to store that information and it's going to tell

567
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.239
the Amazon based Oh this is something popular. Lots of

568
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.519
people are asking about this. It's just it eavesdrops on

569
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.639
you and then it will give you the ads. And

570
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.599
again that's how AI is scraping the environment around us

571
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.800
to build its brain. Yep.

572
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.199
Absolutely, And I know that's true because I you know,

573
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.920
all the timeline. It starts spilling out and I'm like, okay, Alexa,

574
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.920
what's my notification? And it starts telling me that, oh, well,

575
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.480
item you have in your Amazon card is now on sale?

576
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.199
You can you know so? And I'm like, well, you know,

577
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.119
when it first started doing that, When I first got it,

578
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.559
I'm like, well, how do you even know that I

579
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:14.599
have something in.

580
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:15.920
My Amazon card?

581
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:16.239
You know?

582
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.679
But it's kind of interesting to see that some of

583
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.840
the things that it will it definitely will tell you,

584
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.679
so you're absolutely correct about that. So tell us, if again,

585
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.280
if there was one piece of advice that you would

586
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.559
lead with the viewers and the listeners, what would that

587
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.199
piece of advice be.

588
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.000
Practice makes perfect. The more you write, the better you

589
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:49.679
will get at it. I would rather someone try to

590
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.719
write something themselves and they do a terrible job, but

591
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.880
it's good enough that I could edit it. I remember

592
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.719
the first PhD I edited. There's people that have fears

593
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.280
of and so they just go on and on and

594
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.920
on nonsensically. That was how his dissertation was written. The

595
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.239
first time I looked at it, there was no punctuation,

596
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.559
no paragraphs. I could only tell where thoughts ended because

597
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.440
he did at least know how to use the end notes.

598
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.840
So I was able to break things.

599
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:19.199
Up that way.

600
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.360
And when I asked someone, I'm like, did you know

601
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.880
you don't have any punctuation in here? And that's when

602
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.079
I didn't hear from him for four months, and he's like,

603
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.119
I realized I have to be serious about this. And

604
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.079
once he went and rewrote the whole thing, using punctuation

605
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:40.199
correctly and paragraphs and using better words, it was an

606
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:46.320
easy edit. He invited me to his practice dissertation and defense.

607
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.039
I went and he sailed through with flying colors, and

608
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.880
he's actually one of my number one referral sources because

609
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.280
now he's a professor at a local college and so

610
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.440
he gives my information to his students. Some of the

611
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.480
students that he was in class with, the other classes

612
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:08.039
with that are just now getting to their dissertations, he

613
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:09.840
gives them my informations.

614
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:12.440
Wow.

615
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.639
So tell us, Stephanie, if the viewers and the listeners

616
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.239
wanted to reach out to you to find out more

617
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.119
about your services, maybe you know, getting you to do

618
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.719
something for them, or even getting your book, how can

619
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.760
they find you and also tell us where they can

620
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:31.760
also find your book.

621
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.519
The easiest way is to email me right by Stuff

622
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.519
at gmail dot com. You can also go onto my

623
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:44.920
website www dot right by stuff dot com and you

624
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.639
can pick a time on my calendar to meet, or

625
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:53.119
you can click All my books are on Amazon right now,

626
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.320
and I have links to those to each book on

627
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.039
my web page as well as two of them are

628
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.679
in Spanish, excuse me, and I'm working on getting audio

629
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.079
books on all of them. My goal is to be

630
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.400
able to reach everyone who needs the information in as

631
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.679
many ways as possible. The AI in Writing book is

632
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:21.239
an ebook only, however, because it's constantly changing, I'm going

633
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.000
to have to be updating that book fairly regularly. I

634
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.199
don't want people to buy a print copy and then

635
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.360
something be out of date and they're like, hey, you

636
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:31.719
told me something wrong.

637
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.599
Okay, gotcha, Okay.

638
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:39.239
Well, thank you so much. We appreciate you coming on

639
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.360
and giving us so many nuggets about what you do

640
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:48.440
about writing, about getting your resume updated, and all the

641
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.639
information that should go into it. So thank you so

642
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.400
much for taking time out of your schedule to be

643
00:40:54.519 --> 00:41:00.760
with us today. Thanks so Now, I'm just going to

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give a few announcements about what's going on, what's going

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malink and my viewers and my listeners for joining me today.

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This is the successful women's show. I am doctor Madeline

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Ann Lewis, and if you'd like to reach out to me,

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for women's show. We're here every week at two pm

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Eastern Standard time. I am your host, doctor Matlin and

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Lewis helping women accelerate the path to success. Thank you

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again to my guests and my viewers and my listeners

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and all of you for joining me. I love you

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all to life and as always, be well.

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And stay safe out there.

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